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Ah - your 20 yr. old sounds like my 32 and 25 yr. olds - all 3 of them!
Don't do what they promised, don't follow through, don't take care of what they need to - why bother?
Sounds like she is headed for trouble. Hope you don't get caught up in it. I doubt having her move back to "Grandpa's" would work - then she doesn't have to deal with her problems, she has someone rescuing her. And, YOU would be responsible for tearing her away from the BF. (and we know that somehow it would become YOUR fault, and not hers).
Glad that the MR thing worked out - you post sounds so much more upbeat than it did before.
I know it's hard, but sometimes you need to let your DD learn the hard way. Instead of picking up the slack, let her experience the natural consequences. You are doing so much and my guess is it's not appreciated. Also why should your DD do the unpleasant things, if someone else will. She got in the accident, she needs to take some responsibility. What happens if she doesn't pay her ticket? Will they schedule a hearing? Issue a warrant? Or nothing? I'd try to find out (it may actually say on the back of the ticket).
I also have a 20 year old DD, but she's still in school which gives her some more growing up time. She can be independent at school but doesn't have all the responsibilities of being an adult, her food and housing are taken care of and all she really has to worry about are her classes, her TA position and her athletic team. She is really busy and doesn't have a lot of down time. Can you DD look in to some kind of school/training program where she can live on campus and have some time to grow up?
And will her boyfriend be leaving soon? Shouldn't his semester be up soon?
I think one of the many reasons you are doing so well in the CP is that you are not 20 and have so many more life experiences than the average college kid.
I have to agree with Diane about the 20 yo. It's time she receive a few lessons from the school of hard knocks. She's plenty old enough to make those phone calls herself. And any non-family roommates would have kicked her out by now for not paying her bills. She's really taking advantage of "Mom". Good luck. And congrats on smoothing out the MR room.
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IS she not helping with the younger girls at all either? How did she manage when it was just her and your older dtr? I'd be concerned if she has fallen this apart since you arrived- if she was doing well enough to manage and now isnt-and if you dont stay on, wont her leaving kind of mess up your older dtr as far as roommate situations go?
What a mess!
At leat the MR was better
IS she not helping with the younger girls at all either? How did she manage when it was just her and your older dtr? I'd be concerned if she has fallen this apart since you arrived- if she was doing well enough to manage and now isnt-and if you dont stay on, wont her leaving kind of mess up your older dtr as far as roommate situations go?
What a mess!
At leat the MR was better
She is bipolar, but will NOT admit it or get the appropriate treatment, which is the root of many of the problems. She's been helping with the younger 2 when it suits her, she's very much like the rhyme with the girl with the curl...when she's good she's very, very good, but when she's bad, she's horrid. When it was just her and 23yo, she did the same thing, hardly paid rent, and my Dad was sending the 23yo money to cover the balance. She did tell me angrily last night when I told her I needed the rent money that she's bought $100 in groceries this month. I just said, "OK, you've both eaten more than $100 worth, I'm sure" and that REALLY made her angry.
The BF is here until 5/15, but he put in an application to extend until 8/15. If he extends he's going to go get his own car. I've been mulling over having him apply to live offsite, since he lives here anyway, and he can help out with the rent here. It would save him quite a bit of $$. I haven't mentioned it to anyone yet, though.
I'm on the lease here until January, after that we'll have to see where I am. If I do wind up going back to Ohio, however, I'm going to help get 23yo set up in a place of her own where she isn't depending on 20yo for rent.
I know it's hard, but sometimes you need to let your DD learn the hard way. Instead of picking up the slack, let her experience the natural consequences. You are doing so much and my guess is it's not appreciated. Also why should your DD do the unpleasant things, if someone else will. She got in the accident, she needs to take some responsibility. What happens if she doesn't pay her ticket? Will they schedule a hearing? Issue a warrant? Or nothing? I'd try to find out (it may actually say on the back of the ticket).
I also have a 20 year old DD, but she's still in school which gives her some more growing up time. She can be independent at school but doesn't have all the responsibilities of being an adult, her food and housing are taken care of and all she really has to worry about are her classes, her TA position and her athletic team. She is really busy and doesn't have a lot of down time. Can you DD look in to some kind of school/training program where she can live on campus and have some time to grow up?
And will her boyfriend be leaving soon? Shouldn't his semester be up soon?
I think one of the many reasons you are doing so well in the CP is that you are not 20 and have so many more life experiences than the average college kid.
Make sure you take care of yourself.
Diane
I agree with Diane. She may need to learn to do things on her own. The longer she gets help from you, her sister, and your parents, the longer it is going to take for her to reach that point. The best thing that happened for my now 22 year old DD was going away to college, and having to do it on her own. The first two years she was away, she shared an off campus apartment with three other girls-none of whom she had met before she moved down there. They have ended up to be some of her closest friends. By being on her own she has gradually taken over the responsibilities that come with becoming an adult. Initially I helped with things like her cell phone, health insurance, and auto insurance, but over time she has taken over all of those things on her own. Other than gifts of money occasionally for holidays, I have not helped her out. The first month she was down in Arizona, she got a fairly large ticket for riding her bike improperly. As hard as it was, she had to come up with the money to pay it as well as make arrangements to attend bike safety school. In the end it was a great learning experience, and she started to learn that she could deal with things on her own. I am proud of her as she has learned so much and is very self sufficient.
Is your DD still part of the CP? If so, could she live in the CP housing on her own. I know you mentioned that she is also bipolar. Maybe if she had to do things entirely on her own, she might start to see for herself that she needs to get help to address that. Hard as it might be to stand back and watch, she might need to hit rock bottom as far as the legal and financial things go to find herself and become the independent adult that both of you ultimately want.
You have so much on your plate right now that you don't need to fight her battles as well. I would address the behaviors and responsibilities that she has that directly affect your younger two daughters, and then I would leave the rest to her. If she doesn't come through on rent, then maybe she needs to leave. My DD is a leasing manager for an off campus housing complex, and people that don't pay their rent do actually get evicted. Natural consequences for her actions might speak louder than anything you say to her, especially if you aren't there bailing her out.
Good luck with everything, and try to enjoy your experience as much as you can.
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I can see where it would be nice to have an extra person paying rent, but having th BF live there- do you think that sends a message to the younger DD's??
Kids, they sure are complicated, arent they??
Holy Geez I just read this whole thing. Fantastic experience you're having. I cannot imagine how amazing it must be to think "Oh, yay, a day off" and in the same brain think "Oh, yay, I get to go to work tomorrow.". That just blows my mind.
No comment on the daughter situation, I've got one of my own and you have my sympathy. Good luck.
Thanks for sharing your story and letting all of us dreamers live vicariously through you.
Hi Dawn,
Just wanted to tell you to hang in there with the dd situation. My ex is a diagosed bi-polar and I know how difficult it was to live with him. (Which is why we no longer live together!) I can't imagine going through it with the kids...it's a difficult situation to be in.
Know that we are thinking of you and wishing you all the best!
Glad your MR situation improved!! Sorry you are having issues with your DD. You are a great mom and I applaud you for handling things the way you are because I know your patience has to be wearing thin.
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Fantastic experience you're having. I cannot imagine how amazing it must be to think "Oh, yay, a day off" and in the same brain think "Oh, yay, I get to go to work tomorrow.". That just blows my mind.
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