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We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
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06-16-2006, 04:14 PM
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Re: Aloha Kana and Pila – Part 1
Very moving installments Bill. Hawaii is definitely on my list of places to visit and the USS Arizona Memorial is top of the things we must do if we ever get out there. What a beautiful memorial it is to all those who lost their lives, ensuring that they will never be forgotten.
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06-17-2006, 08:11 AM
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Re: Aloha Kana and Pila – Part 1
[b] The USS Bowfin submarine…
Before we move on with the trip report, here are some links for those that want more info on the Memorial, or the USS Arizona…
The National Park Service Page on the Memorial
http://www.nps.gov/usar/index.htm
Specific Info on the Arizona…
http://www.nps.gov/usar/ExtendWeb1.html
The Arizona Memorial Museum Association Page
http://www.arizonamemorial.org/
Now, on with the TR…
We finished at the Arizona Museum after spending a few dollars in the gift shop and headed over to the “food court” as it was lunch time. Looking over the various places, we decided on chicken and beef shish-k-bobs [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/yuma.gif[/img] After lunch, we headed next door to tour the USS Bowfin, a submarine…
A little info here…
These three ships, the U.S.S. Arizona, U.S.S. Bowfin, and U.S.S. Missouri, represent the beginning, middle, and end of the U.S.’s involvement in the Pacific part of WW2. Our involvement started with the sinking of the USS Arizona, The USS Bowfin was nicknamed the “Pearl Harbor Avenger” (I’ll explain in a little bit) and U.S. ended the Pacific part of WW2 on the deck of the U.S.S. Missouri when the Japanese signed the Surrender Paperwork…
Once in the parking lot, you can walk to both the U.S.S. Arizona Museum and the U.S.S. Bowfin. You will board a trolley to ride over to Ford Island to view the U.S.S. Missouri. The Bowfin and Missouri are both maintained by private, non-profit groups and there is a fee to visit them. They are worth it, in my humble opinion…
Bowfin info – A Balao class submarine originally set up to hold 70 personnel (7 officers/73enlisted) and later increased to 80 (8 officers/72enlisted). She is just under 312 feet long, just over 27 feet wide and weighs 1810 tons surfaced and 2415 tons submerged. Her keel was laid on 23 July, 1942. She was launched 7 December, 1942 (thus the nickname) and commissioned 1 May, 1943. More info on the specifics of the boat can be found here: http://bowfin.org/website/bowfin/bowfin_frameset.htm The Bowfin was acquired from the Navy in 1979 and opened to the public in 1981.
The USS Bowfin Submarine Museum and Park home page is http://bowfin.org/website/index.cfm
During WW2, the Bowfin went out on 9 patrols and was credited/responsible for sinking 44 enemy ships…
The memorial at this park was set up as a silent tribute to the 52 American Submarines and more than 3500 Submariners lost in WW2…
My father was a post WW2 submariner for 20 years in the Navy…
Now, on with our visit..
As you enter the park, there are inert pieces of some of the military weaons used…
The Memorial
Has a number of columns surrounding the flag and a different submarine is described on each one..
The plaque list the submarine name and number, the commanding officer when lost, a photo, launch date, a brief synopsis of the submarine’s history and a list of those crew members that disappeared with the boat and are on “eternal patrol”.
If anyone wants to seethe plaque on a specific submarine there, drop me a PM, I have good photos of them all…
The ramp up to the sub…
The Sub…
We purchased our tickets for both the Bowfin and the Missouri. Prior to getting on the boat, you are given a walkman-style unit with a numeric pad. You press the button associated with the station you are at and it gives you the technical info for that area and you hear a description by a sailor who has been there…
The deck area…
Forward torpedo room…
Most cubicles are just big enough for one person, 2 if you’re really good friends…
That’s Jan in the “hallway” to give you an idea of how much room there is…
Officers bunks…
Officers ward room
The Captain’s bunk…
Main Control Room
Kitchen…
Enlisted chow hall…
The daily menu, personally signed and approved by the Captain…
Enlisted personnel sleeping…
One of the engines
Where the engines are really controller…
Aft torpedo room…
Sharpshooter Jan [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/rofl2.gif[/img]
Off the boat and we wandered around the Museum/Gift Shop. We got the photo they took, I’ll scan them in and post them later…
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06-17-2006, 08:31 AM
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Re: Aloha Kana and Pila – Part 1
Bill, I am loving this. My dad is reading your report over my shoulder. We are both huge history buffs and I would love to visit there one day. Can't wait to read more!
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06-17-2006, 08:36 AM
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Re: Aloha Kana and Pila – Part 1
Great updates Bill!!! We saw this on our honeymoon and it really brings back some wonderful memories! Your pictures are gorgeous.
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06-17-2006, 08:55 AM
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Re: Aloha Kana and Pila – Part 1
Another fantastic update! So interesting! I hope one day to get there [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/082502yes_prv.gif[/img]
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06-17-2006, 08:57 AM
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Re: Aloha Kana and Pila – Part 1
Holy Sardine Can, Bagman!! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img] I can tell you right here, right now, without a doubt, there is no way I would ever be able to go inside a submarine! Way too close quarters for my comfort! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/ukid.gif[/img]
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06-17-2006, 10:09 AM
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Re: Aloha Kana and Pila – Part 1
I regret that we did not get to the Bowfin. Well, next time. I can't wait to see your photos of the Missouri. We really enjoyed that one. I'm going to try and find my photos from that day. My brother in law loved the Missouri so much, he opted to have his Navy retirement ceremony on board in October 2002. I only wish I could have flown back for that!
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06-17-2006, 07:18 PM
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Re: Aloha Kana and Pila – Part 1
Bill - thank you for the wonderful photos of the Arizona. I have been there twice and it is a majorly sobering experience.
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06-18-2006, 06:28 AM
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Re: Aloha Kana and Pila – Part 1
What wonderful photos - reading your report, I'm desperate to visit Hawaii one day, it seems like there is so much to see and do a lot of history to appreciate there.
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06-18-2006, 09:19 AM
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Re: Aloha Kana and Pila – Part 1
Amazing photographs. Thank you so much for sharing these.
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06-18-2006, 07:15 PM
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Re: Aloha Kana and Pila – Part 1
You take the most amazing photos.
You have such a gift.
More pls!!!!!
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06-18-2006, 07:53 PM
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Re: Aloha Kana and Pila – Part 1
Bill, what a great report so far and absolutely gorgeous pictures! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/love.gif[/img]
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06-19-2006, 02:29 AM
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Re: Aloha Kana and Pila – Part 1
Another superb update!
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06-19-2006, 11:27 AM
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Re: Aloha Kana and Pila – Part 1
Excellent pictures of the Bowfin, Bill!
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06-19-2006, 07:27 PM
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Re: Aloha Kana and Pila – Part 1
[b] The U.S.S. Missouri
Before we start with the photos, here some facts about the Missouri…
Remember, this ship is about the same size as the Arizona laying on the bottom close by…
Length: 887’ 3”
Beam: 108’ 3”
Height: 209’ 8”
Weight: 58,000 TONS fully loaded
45,000 TONS empty
Keel Laid: 6 Jan, 1941
Launched: 29 Jan, 1944
Commissioned: 11 Jun, 1944
Operational: 14 Dec, 1944
Decommissioned: 26 Feb, 1955
Recommissioned: 10 May, 1986
Decommissioned: 31 Mar, 1992
Removed from the Navy Registry in 1995
Moved to Pearl Harbor 22 Jun, 1998
Open to the public: 29 Jan, 1999 on the 54th anniversary of her launching…
This battleship is the fourth ship and the second battleship to be named after the “show me” state. This was the last battleship commissioned by the U.S. and in 1992 was the world’s last operational battleship.
After being in mothballs for 30 years, she was pulled out of mothballs, refitted and did an “around the world” shakedown cruise, the first battleship to do this since 1909…
In 1987, the Missouri was sent to the Persian Gulf to protect American Flagged oil tankers. In 1988 she participated in an exercise off the coast of the Hawaiian Islands. In 1991, she re-deployed to the Persian Gulf. When she was recommissioned, she was fitted with Tomahawk Cruise missiles and during this deployment she launched them, as well as using her 16 inch guns to pound Iraqi positions…
More detailed history can be found here:
http://ussmissouri.org/History_More.aspx
And complete information on the Memorial and Memorial Organization can be found here:
http://ussmissouri.org/
Now, on with the photos/report…
We hop on a shuttle/street car to head across the bridge to Ford Island to tour the U.S.S. Missouri. Security on military installations there is quite high, in fact on the naval installations if they see you taking photos on base, they’ll stop the vehicle and confiscate the cameras… So, until we got inside the gate at the dock the Missouri was tied up on, we “couldn’t” take any photos, and I didn’t push that this time [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Once on the docks, the picture taking began. Now, when we bought out tickets for the tour, we didn’t pay extra for the “guided tour”. But, when we got to the dock, we were again offered the guided tour and paid the extra for it. One of the benefits of the guided tour is that we got to fly in one of those simulators that “simulated” flying a WW2 aircraft on a mission off a battleship… It was okay..
The Simulator…
Another benefit of the guided tour is the tour guide, you’ll see pics of her as we go through and she was a lot of fun, and informative too [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif[/img]
Preparing to board…
The Arizona Memorial from the dock by the Missouri…
Big Bullets, Little Bullets…
On Deck…
Wood Decks…
Each gun turret has the number of rounds fired from it during their tours in the Persian Gulf…
The radio antennas on the bow…
The anchor chains… Each anchor weighs about 31,000 pounds and there is nearly 1200 feet of anchor chain. Each link of the chain weighs 110 pounds [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img]
Our guide!!!
Looking back towards Ford Island… Does the tower look familiar???
She’s around 5’ 2”
Unlike the Bowfin, these folks had R O O M [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/rofl2.gif[/img]
Full Bath [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif[/img]
Enlisted Bunks…
A cutaway view of a gun turret
Photos of a burial at sea. The person being buried is a Japanese Kamikaze pilot that flew his plane into the side of the Missouri. The Captain felt that the pilot was just carrying out his duties, as the American sailors were, and deserved a decent and proper funeral for dying while performing those duties…
From the aft deck
There’s Ford Island and that tower again…
Tomahawk Cruise Missile and Harpoon Anti-Surface Missile launchers…
Command Center (some of the items had to be removed as they are still used by the navy on their current war ships)…
I used to use one of these radar scopes as an Air Force air traffic controller…
The Surrender Deck…
Copies of the signed document…
A dedication plaque on one of the gun turrets…
Inside one of the turrets….
Formal dining room…
The Arizona Memorial from the Top of the Missouri…
Refinished wood flooring…
The Bridge…
Leaving the ship…
Jan’s Pictures…
My fat head, and our cute guide…
The aft deck…
Lights in combat mode in the Command and Control room…
The Canteen [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif[/img]
Our Picture from the Missouri…
NEXT: Back to the house and the rest of our day… |
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