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Really beautiful and sobering sights on this trip! It's wonderful how well all of the cemeteries are kept up!
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Fascinating about the layout of the Union Jack, and the oopsie! Things like this intrigue me because, if you've ever worked in project management, every little thing gets reviewed by so many people - you have to wonder how in the whole nobody noticed
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Really beautiful and sobering sights on this trip! It's wonderful how well all of the cemeteries are kept up!
That's down to the Commonwealth War Graves Commission and trust me, they have their work cut out for them, as there are so many to maintain, but they make an amazing job of it.
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That's true! I always come into projects at a certain stage, as I work in communications and you're right - people should have reviewed things - but it's amazing how many times I ask a question and people are like "what?" and I'm sitting there, saying "but didn't anyone think of this?
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Although, just a small cemetery in Cambrai it certainly speaks volumes as so well done. It's funny as you mentioned things being poignant as I was thinking the same! These remind me so much of Verdun outside of Reims which I visited in 2013. The losses in this area were beyond belief and so much of the artillery shells impacts on the grounds are still visible after 100 years, which is astonishing! In Verdun the cemetery was for the losses of not only French soldiers but German as well as so many were lost. Verdun was amazing and worth a visit. Reims being the Champagne capital as it is now, was almost nearly rebuilt as something like 75% of buildings destroyed. Not sure of the exact figure, but the city was basically leveled by Germany. I watched a program about this about Reims in my hotel room when I arrived about Reims and WWI and about the famous Notre Dame Cathedrale, which was rebuilt over many years with this. Just amazing!
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So did I. I thought that was truly nature at its best.
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Although, just a small cemetery in Cambrai it certainly speaks volumes as so well done. It's funny as you mentioned things being poignant as I was thinking the same! These remind me so much of Verdun outside of Reims which I visited in 2013. The losses in this area were beyond belief and so much of the artillery shells impacts on the grounds are still visible after 100 years, which is astonishing!
Oh yes, they regularly find all sorts of things from both World Wars. I would not like to be a farmer out there.

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The cathedral is beautiful, isn't it? We may have visited Verdun, I can't remember. If not, I'll have to add it to our list for our next Switzerland road trip.
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Saturday 9 June – part seven: meeting Deborah… a very special old lady

Our next stop was the Cambrai Tank Museum.



Now I know from research I did on the Internet that this only opened last year in November 2017, the centenary of the battle. However, it doesn’t sound as if it’s going well. Our guide wasn’t sure it would be open, as opening hours have been reduced in recent weeks – and bear in mind we’re into the summer months. Apparently they’ve gone from it being open all weekend to just weekend afternoons. That’s not a good sign. When we got there, it did look closed, but our guide double checked and beckoned us out. Cool!

Another sign that it was struggling was the fact we were told that normally entrance is €6 ($7), but apparently it would be €5 for us, because we were in a group. Ok, fair enough. Now when Mark went to pay, he got €2 back, meaning the price was actually €4 each. Bargain!

The first part you go into is a video of the battles here. At first it was in French, but we waited and eventually we got the British version, which explained the battles here and the role that tanks played in this. It was crazy hot in here though, so I was glad when the video finished and we were able to move on.



You walk outside and you can look down at the centrepiece of their collection. Actually, truth be told… it really is their collection.

She is called Deborah and she took part in the 1917 Battle of Cambrai. She was uncovered in 1998, where she lay about seven or eight feet underground. She was hit by a German shell during the battle and, as you can see, she’s certainly been through it…





We made our way down to her to get a close-up look at her…










There were a few displays around Deborah, but not much in truth. These were tiny models…





The whole time we were here, whistles kept going off. Eventually someone said that they went off whenever you got too close to Deborah and they were right. At one point, the guy on reception came in and told people to keep away from it.

Next: poppies everywhere…
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Too bad this little museum is having trouble making a go of it.
It’s odd that they don’t tell you right away that you can’t get too close...or put some signage up around the tank.
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That museum should have some potential. I hope it takes off soon.
The little models of the tank and soldiers make me think of the little German train village at Epcot for some reason...
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Too bad the tank display isn't much yet and hope they can make it more worthwhile! Quite odd with those whistles going off. I guess Deborah has been damaged enough and don't want any more and preserve her as much as they can.
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