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With a few exceptions in some areas (WDW is NOT one of these exceptions) "public intoxication" or being "drunk in public" is illegal, yes it is a crime. It becomes serious when you consider that approximately 40 % of the people who visit WDW on any one day stay off site and in all likelihood will be driving when the leave. A fair portion of people staying on site also drive and when they leave the parks they will have to get back to their resorts somehow. There have been good points made by a lot of folks here, some I heartily agree with and some I strongly disagree with. Just remember, opinions are like bellybuttons, everyone has one and if they are happy with theirs they do not want yours. I often enjoy other peoples bellybuttons.
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Whats so funny about this is I have encountered some of the rudest behavior from non-drunk just rude people...people cursing, people pushing their children to cut lines, people wearing shirts that are not appropriate for children.
I partake in the EPCOT pub crawl each year for my birthday...and while I am very responsible and considerate of my environment...I have noticed that the F&WF weekends at night do have a bourbon street atmosphere at times.
Trashy people= Trashy people ...I saw people at our local zoo getting drunk and smoking in non-designated areas ...but i also saw people who were not drunk but were letting the kids run around unattended and climbing on the fence that separated their children from the lion... while they were texting.
On our last trip, we noticed that many more people were enjoying "adult" beverages and suffering their effects. For instance, one evening we returned to the resort to find someone passed out in a chair in the lobby wreaking of alcohol. And another time a mother with a toddler in a stroller was so inebriated that she walked her child right through the dancing fountain area at Epcot, soaking them both and making the child cry.
Is this something recent or am I just beginning to notice it? Does Disney do anything about impaired guests? Should I have said something to a CM? I cannot imagine getting drunk in front of my children, but maybe I'm just a prude.
I think we are wandering from the OP and its question. yes there are rude people in WDW. yes there are unattended children. its well documented in studies of our society is becoming rudier and children are less disiplined (although this isn't true of any of us here ) most of us were answering this question and from posts from folks returning from EPCOT, especially during F&W the answer seems to be YES! I've seen it on All Ears. I've seen it in the postings here and I've been warned by folks when they heard of my coming trip. and yes to the OP, you should report it, yes there is more.
CM should know to check a passed out guest even if they do smell of alcohol since that effect in conjunction with diabetics is well known. If the person is drunk, they should be removed from the lobby. if they are diabetic, they need to get medical attention. Living in a college town, i can find folks who have over indulged any time, so yes if you are staggering or loud and are holding a drink i'll assume you are drunk and not just a rude person.
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And while I dislike seeing intoxicated people anywhere, they are easy to avoid. I just put on my "I'm-in-Disney-so-nothing-can-bother-me" blinders. For me, my vcations are too darned expensive to waste an iota of my vacation time getting upset about the actions of others.
I will report it to a CM, but then I walk away and go on with my own enjoyment.
And while I dislike seeing intoxicated people anywhere, they are easy to avoid. I just put on my "I'm-in-Disney-so-nothing-can-bother-me" blinders. For me, my vcations are too darned expensive to waste an iota of my vacation time getting upset about the actions of others.
I will report it to a CM, but then I walk away and go on with my own enjoyment.
kind of hard to ignore sometimes though, if people are vomiting in front of you or loud and obnoxious on rides or driving like reckless teenagers in a parking lot.. you know playing games with the car or mauling each other in line..lol
easier to avoid the situation as much as possible
what I dont understand is why and how WDW became a place to go and get drunk..... why there?
eh, guess some people never had their wild times or are still in them or dont get out much.
Cant say as its ever really ruined my 'enjoymnet' either, maybe just changed my plans for the day or afternoon
Which was my point with the ONE report I've ever made(in 42 trips). I spoke to a Cm, whom I'm sure did their own evaluation of the situation, then security ASKED to speak to me(not in range of the reported party). We went on with the evening, without a second thought. The OP asked if she should've reported-I did, which was my response to her. I did not confront the man, or FALSELY conjure information. Frankly, I bet he had been on security's radar before I said a word.
And on the CM topic-don't think that because they serve "one more" to someone, that their next move isn't to call in someone to keep an eye on the guest. Confrontation can only escalate a bad situation, & I can imagine that unless the situation would be dire or dangerous to those around them, the guest would be dealt with in a less populated situation.
And on the CM topic-don't think that because they serve "one more" to someone, that their next move isn't to call in someone to keep an eye on the guest. Confrontation can only escalate a bad situation, & I can imagine that unless the situation would be dire or dangerous to those around them, the guest would be dealt with in a less populated situation.
Great point!!
Ken
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I do not make films primarily for children. I make them for
the child in all of us, whether we be six or sixty.
Walt Disney Chip and Company website
And while I dislike seeing intoxicated people anywhere, they are easy to avoid. I just put on my "I'm-in-Disney-so-nothing-can-bother-me" blinders. For me, my vcations are too darned expensive to waste an iota of my vacation time getting upset about the actions of others.
I will report it to a CM, but then I walk away and go on with my own enjoyment.
I have to agree here. My blinders work pretty well at Disney. I am, afterall in the Happiest Place on Earth and many times drunk people are just EXTRA happy! LOL
I seem to remember quite a bit of loud giggling and a wig being ripped off on some boat ride in Mexico....I guess WE were the obnoxious drunk people....
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i have lots of practice at walking away, but there are times when you can't or shouldn't have to (during a show, ride, a meal). but again, this is off the original post.
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) most of us were answering this question and from posts from folks returning from EPCOT, especially during F&W the answer seems to be YES! I've seen it on All Ears. I've seen it in the postings here and I've been warned by folks when they heard of my coming trip. and yes to the OP, you should report it, yes there is more.
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