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Sometimes I wonder if ideas get "leaked" in order to gauge responses from the public by having employees troll the message boards to see what people say about it.
I think, as Dave Marx has said, that there are many reasons things get leaked:
1) a disgruntled Imagineer who risks his job (or has just lost his job) and leaks the project he was working on to embarrass or frustrate Disney.
2) a test of the concept to judge guest reaction (and this can happen in the blue sky phase, well into ride development, or just before they announce the plans to expand.)
3) it's like cooking spaghetti -- throw it against the wall to see if it sticks.
4) to keep Disney in the news
Those just being a few of the reasons that some ideas make it out of the Imagineering bubble.
Eileen
This has been an interesting thread, for the most part. Who cares how or why the leaks come about? It starts lots of interesting discussions and ideas stimulating the imagination. Doesn't matter if it comes to fruition. That's part of the fun of the community.
I think, as Dave Marx has said, that there are many reasons things get leaked:
1) a disgruntled Imagineer who risks his job (or has just lost his job) and leaks the project he was working on to embarrass or frustrate Disney.
2) a test of the concept to judge guest reaction (and this can happen in the blue sky phase, well into ride development, or just before they announce the plans to expand.)
3) it's like cooking spaghetti -- throw it against the wall to see if it sticks.
4) to keep Disney in the news
Those just being a few of the reasons that some ideas make it out of the Imagineering bubble.
Eileen
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Not only keeping Disney in the news, but a position discussion not involving the recent accidents in the news.
I like the expansion of FL concept. It would help the congestion, if there were more places to go and larger differences to travel.
The dueling Dumbos is an interesting concept too, as this ride, based on its' design can't really move the lines faster individually, so 2 of them would hopefully cut down on the lines.
As for a very princess-y land: since I have only girls, this works great for me. However it would be nice if they put something else related to Classic Disney over near the barnstormer this would help - maybe something Mickey themed. As for FL being more for girls - that's true, but Adventureland and Tommorrowland are really more traditionally boy themes.
It will be very interesting to see if any of the information comes to fruition.
It would be nice to see some additions/changes to Fantasyland and see some other characters given attention. I think M.K. needs a bit of renewal but it truly is timeless. I think that the park to possibly "compete" with U.S./I.O.A. would be the Studios. I've always felt that that's where they could do some rides/attractions featuring Disney/Pixar's more current movies. It all takes time, development and money. The first two are easy to come by. These days, it's the last that everyone needs.
This really seems like a lot of princesses so I can see how it might really turn off some little guys. And I'm not happy about losing my chance to see the Mouse and gang unless they set up some sort of equivalent meet and greet in, say, the Town Square Exposition Hall. Having multiple Dumbos would definitly help with that little bottle-neck, and a Casy Jr ride (like they have at Disneyland) would be a nice addition for the very littlest guests. But I do hope that you will still be able to see the Carousel throught the gates of the castle.
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WOW.......
is this an old or a new rumor?
has anyone see this yet?
i really hope they put that new mermaid ride in, that looked really cool on the LITTLE MERMAID DVD Secret plans to overhaul Disney World's Fantasyland?
I like the idea of a ride based on the Little Mermaid. I would also like to see a ride or other attraction geared towards something boys would like a Pixar theme. I would also like to see them add another table service restaurant based on Beauty and the Beast.
Why take away both Minie and Mickey's house I love those houses. Where mickey and mine going to go home to. lol Pixie Hollow could go on the other side of the track. I like the fact the will expand the back part of the castle make it more whole with a complete court yard.
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