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Old 03-26-2009, 08:50 AM   #46
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It sounds like in many ways you and your younger dtrs would be better off without the older dtrs except for the child care/schooling part- figure in what you would have to pay for child care- at $10 an hour- it may be cheaper to deal with the dtrs late/missing rent
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Old 03-26-2009, 10:37 AM   #48
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Dawn - I had an ah-hah moment today about your DDs!
You say that the 23 yr. old was on board until she got her sister, then they both turned.
Well, I'd talk with the 23 yr. old - and let her know that you're okay with the 20 yr. old not paying rent as long as SHE makes up the difference. That's what you've been doing all of this time anyway - maybe it's time for her to suffer.
She could at least cover 1/2 of her sister's portion. She just might do a 180 on that really quickly.
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Hope things are going better or at least not so stressed for now. Keep moving forward - don't let any of this sidetrack you.

You've gotten some good advice. Hope the mediation/counseling/guidance route will come into play soon to, to help you get this situation taken care of.
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I've got a 20 yr. old and I would do the exact same thing.
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Old 03-28-2009, 02:43 PM   #52
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There's no advice I can offer, as I've never been in a situation like yours (and I would never even consider being like that to my Mum, so can't even offer any kind of guess at what your 20yo might be thinking or why she's doing this!).

However I do send you lots of



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that you have a (closest I could get to peaceful home smiley!) very soon.
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I'm so sorry Dawn that the oldest kids are being royal pains in the butt. I'm sure this week is even more stressful with an DH there and getting wind of all of the cr@p.
and for all of you.... except the boyfriend. He needs to be booted NOW.
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