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Old 12-08-2008, 04:34 PM   #526
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great update chez
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great pics of the ksc and the party
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I'd eat either of your breakfasts. The eggs looked AMAZING!!
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Popping in again to read your updates. You pictures are making me so homesick for Florida and I never thought I'd say that when we moved away.

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Great update, Cheryl! Sounds like a wonderful breakfast....thank goodness for the orange juice to help with the pepper! KSC looks amazing - I haven't been there in 29 years and I don't remember too much, but it seems like you're allowed to do & see so much more now. Can't wait to hear what happens next
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Wednesday 22 October – part two: what do you mean, “it will start in 2002”?

Our next stop was the Saturn 5 / Apollo visitor complex and it starts off pretty neatly with a recap of the beginning of the space race, leading up to the launch of one of the Apollo missions. It’s pretty realistic and I like the way that they’ve managed to get real footage from that time, intermingled with effects of how the launch centre would’ve operated, right in front of you.



Then it’s on into the main exhibition area and I can’t help but feel that this is where NASA is missing out. Yes, the Saturn 5 rocket is incredibly impressive and no-one can fail to be awestruck by it.



Then there are the models and the rovers used on the moon, but somehow for me, none of that works. There’s a genuine lack of explanation about what we’re seeing and from having told the story so well up until that point, suddenly it all stops and we’re left on our own trying to piece it all together. One example was that I tried to follow the information about the various Apollo missions and found the details of Apollo 13 located in the coffee shop. Not very well thought out.



There were lots of questions that kept coming into my head and there were no answers from the exhibitions and no staff around to answer them either. Things like why were there so many manned visits to the moon in such a short space of time and what did they do while they were up there? We heard at one point that they were there for up to three days and I’d really like to know what they were doing during that time. That would be fascinating for me to learn more about, but there’s no mentioned of it anywhere. As a result, we probably only looked around for 20 minutes or so and we were quite thorough too. We were one of the last ones from our bus to get out of there, which I think says something.

We took the bus to out final stop at the International Space Centre and I was looking forward to seeing how this had changed since my last visit eight years ago, as obviously things had moved on considerably since then. Sadly I was to be disappointed there as well. The only new thing there was an observation gallery into the workshops, which are preparing items to be taken up on future missions. We were told that there were guys with white coats on who would be loading up things to actually go on the next shuttle launch in November, but there was no sign of them. I would’ve loved to have learnt more about what was going on down there, but it was not to be. The signs they had up, explaining what things were, were very basic, written in code, with no word to what those things actually were. Not very helpful. There wasn’t even anyone to ask either, as the only person in view was a security guard. Another good opportunity missed.



Once we had finished there, it was back to the main exhibition area, where we wandered around the various information there. What struck me was that none of it had been changed since my last visit, as shown by the board that said when something “started in 2002”. To me, that was just slack, leaving something like that so obviously out of date for so long. It almost felt as if no-one cared about the Visitor Complex, which was a great shame.



We caught the bus back to the main visitor complex at the entrance and they have added more here since the time we were here, but it wasn’t our sort of thing, with the IMAX movies, so that didn’t help. We went to look at the shuttle replica that they have there, but you can’t really see much there. At least here, they did tell you a bit about the inventions that have come from space. We had been saying as we went around the complex that we were surprised not to see more of that elsewhere.



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thanks for the KSC update . . . I felt like I was there and now I don't have to go do it!!
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Sorry you couldn't find the answers you were looking for at KSC. I don't know, I was just so overwhelmed with all the exhibitions that I didn't miss any explanations. It was our first time visiting, though, so that could be why. The huge Saturn rocket was my favorite exhibit. Can't wait to read more about your trip!
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Perhaps, in this case, self guided tours are not the answer! What you did see seems pretty interesting... too bad they leave so many questions open, though.
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It would seem that NASA has in fact left something to be desired with their self guided tours. The pictures are great, thanks for that.
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more great pics....thanks for sharing. I love how you've been compairing the prices with the DxDP......we are doing it when we go next year & to see what we'd be saving is a big help! THANKS!
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Sorry you couldn't find the answers you were looking for. It really does seem like the visitor's center is a low priority for NASA.
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