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I just dont understand why it should matter if someone is getting "drunk" on their vacation. Disney advertises this food and wine fest. and it is a means of getting money in the bag for them. They are not going to cut a group off after a few beers. I'm sure if the situation gets out of hand, disney handles it. Otherwise, people enjoying themselves by trying to drink beers around the world are just living out their vacation that they paid for the way they choose to. As most everyone here does as well, i'm sure. And what is so annoying about these drunk patron's that are doing this? I think maybe I am missing some of the story? I guess what im saying is that if they are just being loud and having a good time, whats the harm?? If they are urinating on the walls all over the place (so to speak)then thats a problem.
I have to agree with Areil&Alice. Sure some people might go a bit too far and Disney might have to step in but there are many things in WDW that will get on peoples nerves. For me, it's parents who have no control over their kids and let them run rampant. Each of us has things that will push our buttons while these same things don't bother others.
I have also served alcohol in a theme park in Cincinnati (about 20 years ago) and while we were told not to serve someone who has had too much it can be very hard to tell sometimes. It is a fine line trying to tell if someone is being too loud and goofy because they are having a good time or had too much. I remember one time a server told a patron she would not be able to serve his group because she thought they had had too much from the way they were acting. Turned out the group had come up to the counter to get some ice water, they were a group of clergymen that had brought their church to the oark and they did not drink. They were not insulted but did ask when having a good time meant people assumed you were drinking.
That being said, if you do see someone who has gone over the line (urinating on a wall) please report them to a CM. But remember, what seems annoying to you might be just a person having a good time. Many different cultures and lifestyles collide at WDW and it's bound to cause some issues in what each person thinks is appropiate and what isn't.
i don't believe that anyone is complaining about folks who are just having fun. its the out of control behavior, off color comments, passed out, barely dressed and taking off more. there is nothing wrong with having fun on vacation. there is nothing wrong with drinking. there is something wrong when people are staggering, and beyond the 'fun' stage of drinking. you know when their fun includes dancing on your table during dinner or being loud and lewd. if the CM are continuing to serve guests who have obviously had too many, then Disney training isn't working. after all those people might be leaving the park soon and driving.
this has been a hot topic before and probably will be this time also. i have also been told that when we go to EPCOT for the F&W, we shouldn't go on the weekend and be out right after dinner. That can't be good for Disney business.
Otherwise, people enjoying themselves by trying to drink beers around the world are just living out their vacation that they paid for the way they choose to. As most everyone here does as well, i'm sure. And what is so annoying about these drunk patron's that are doing this?
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its the out of control behavior, off color comments, passed out, barely dressed and taking off more. there is nothing wrong with having fun on vacation. there is nothing wrong with drinking. there is something wrong when people are staggering, and beyond the 'fun' stage of drinking. you know when their fun includes dancing on your table during dinner or being loud and lewd.
Ariel&Alice, if you find this acceptable behavior in a family park, then that's fine, but there are many of us who have families and do not find this behavior appropriate in the least. Those are the behaviors that people are getting upset about - not the drinking itself or the people who can hold their booze and act appropriately.
I wasn't referring to people simply drinking and having fun. I have beer at EPCOT, as does my husband and our friends. My comments were specific to the events we witnessed with my children - the urinating and passed out guests. That behavior is not appropriate anywhere, let alone a Disney theme park.
I just mentioned this because it was the first time I had really noticed it. My concern was for the toddler of the inebriated parent. If the parent gets drunk and passes out in the hotel room, or in the park, then who takes care of the child? (or worse still, who walks off with the child???) And the passed out drunk in the lobby could have robbed by just about anyone. A woman passed out could find herself in even more trouble. If you want to get rip-roaring drunk, at least make certain you have someone to watch out for your children and yourself.
You are certainly free to drink all you want on vacation as long as you don't endanger others. If people want to make fools out of themselves, that's their business. And it gives me the opportunity to teach my children what happens when you over-imbibe. I make no judgements, just observations.
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There's no point in voicing my opinion on a matter if people are just going to 'gang up'. I stated quite clearly that its unacceptable for people to urinate on a wall(and its unnacceptable at any rate to harm another person). However, I dont think someone sleeping in their resort lobby might mean they are drunk. I think that if there's a complaint you have on someone regarding an accusation, you MUST have more proof than 'the lady walked through a fountain with a baby..' most people may not even know that fountain in DTD is there, you cannot be sure someone is drunk just b/c they are sleeping in the lobby...this person could just as well have narcolepsy or perhaps is just really tired. I am left wondering if this lady actually walked up to this sleeping person and smelled their breath or gave them a breath alyzer test whilst they were sleeping!! Also, can you fault a patron for ordering another round of beer on their vacay...just b/c they looked drunk to you??? I forget who said somthing about this but that was about all the detail they gave..I AM ASKING "What are these people doing specifically to harm you and your family?" Don't just type half the issue...I can't read anyone's mind. OLDMOM is about the only one on this thread that has given a specific statement about this problem,and even she didnt single anyone out, & that was after i pressed the issue. Don't get angsty with me having an opinion. We're all over the legal drinking limit here, I hope. i'm done commenting on this subject. I just wanted to know more of HOW people who were making comments knew that people were drunk. The drinking thing, i'm sure is outta hand. Drinking anywhere can get outta hand. It does suck b/c its a family park...but its inevitable. Ya'll have a good night, now
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Disney should not overserve these people period. There is a good chance they will be driving home. I find it interesting that several years ago when I went up to get a margarita for my husband and myself in Mexico, the CM wouldn't sell me two drinks. She said dh had to come up (and show his ID). I assumed this was to prevent someone buying a drink for an underage person and to prevent a person from overimbibing. The last two summers no one has questioned either dh or I when we've purchased margaritas or Grey Goose vodka lemonades for each other. We're not big drinkers but do enjoy a frosty beverage at WDW. I honestly don't know how anyone could drink that much in the heat anyway. It would make me sick to my stomach.
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There's no point in voicing my opinion on a matter if people are just going to 'gang up'. I stated quite clearly that its unacceptable for people to urinate on a wall(and its unnacceptable at any rate to harm another person). However, I dont think someone sleeping in their resort lobby might mean they are drunk. I think that if there's a complaint you have on someone regarding an accusation, you MUST have more proof than 'the lady walked through a fountain with a baby..' most people may not even know that fountain in DTD is there, you cannot be sure someone is drunk just b/c they are sleeping in the lobby...this person could just as well have narcolepsy or perhaps is just really tired. I am left wondering if this lady actually walked up to this sleeping person and smelled their breath or gave them a breath alyzer test whilst they were sleeping!! Also, can you fault a patron for ordering another round of beer on their vacay...just b/c they looked drunk to you??? I forget who said somthing about this but that was about all the detail they gave..I AM ASKING "What are these people doing specifically to harm you and your family?" Don't just type half the issue...I can't read anyone's mind. OLDMOM is about the only one on this thread that has given a specific statement about this problem,and even she didnt single anyone out, & that was after i pressed the issue. Don't get angsty with me having an opinion. We're all over the legal drinking limit here, I hope. i'm done commenting on this subject. I just wanted to know more of HOW people who were making comments knew that people were drunk. The drinking thing, i'm sure is outta hand. Drinking anywhere can get outta hand. It does suck b/c its a family park...but its inevitable. Ya'll have a good night, now
I never meant to attack anyone, I was just stating that I noticed more drunks than I usually do. And I know a drunk because I managed a bar for several years. I just don't want people getting hurt because they've had a little too much to drink. If you choose to drink on vacation, of course, that's your business and I'm not trying to stop you.
I apologize if my comments offended you, I never intended that to happen. We should all feel free to voice our opinions and yours are just as important as anyone else's.
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We've not encountered too many drunken people in the parks, but we have come upon them. One of my and DH's favorite memories/stories is about the young lady we sat on a bench with in DHS. We were waiting for the kids to be done shopping and asked if she minded if we sat with her. She went into a mini-tirade about it being her "F-ing" birthday, and she was 21 and she wanted to go down to Miami, but her friends decided to bring her to WDW and then the "F-in" went off and left her on the f-in' bench because they said she was too drunk to ride anything and F Mickey Mouse. There were no children around us at the time, and she was actually a bit funny in her tirade. We bought her a couple of waters and had her drink them down, and she was starting to come down off her buzz when the kids arrived.
I agree that people shouldn't drink to the point of severe inebriation, especially with their children present, but it is their life to lead, as long as they don't get into a car.
I have a friend who walks very like a drunk person but she never drinks - she has MS and is lucky to be walking. Some people may appear to be drunk and not be. I think reporting RUDE and LEWD behavior is fine, but I wouldn't report someone just because I think they might have been drinking.
I find it interesting that this was a post considering recent conversations I have had on this very subject.
My mom and I are planning a 5 day trip to WDW in Sept. One of the things we have talked about is different drinks we might want to try. We narrowed it down to this...
1.) Grey goose and Grand Marnier slushies in France. (G.G for me, GM for mom...not one of each for each)
2.) Yak Attack in AK
3.) Sangria at the Hoop Dee Doo Revue
Whoo-Hoo! 3 drinks in 5 days, we are some major partiers!!
The reason it was discussed is because we wanted to be selective as neither one of us want to be "drunk" at WDW. We decided to narrow it down to 2 drinks plus the HoopDee.
Secondly, was because last September we went to WDW it was me, DH, DD, and DMom. I had 2 drinks in 8 days, a GG slushie in France and a Firestarter at the Spirit of Aloha Show at the Poly. DH who is a recovering alcholic kept saying "Babe, if you want to have another drink, go ahead your on vacation!"
I will admit, as many people have posted on here, I didnt , because I felt that we were in WDW! We were at WDW for a 'family' vacation. Why would I have too many drinks?? One I found was plenty!! I felt that was my responsibilty limit.
This time with just me and mom, I said to her "Wow! I can have that 2nd drink, if I want." So I might have 2 Sangrias at the HoopDee.
There was one woman at my resort last year that tried to get in the wrong room, and then passed out under a bush. She was promptly attended to.
Another lady at the smoking area, had attended the Hoop Dee Doo that evening. We were chit chatting with her having a good time. You could tell she had a couple drinks and was pretty happy and funny. Not at all annoying or what I would have considered "drunk", just having a good time. Her parting comments are something we remember to this day....and laugh....
"If you havent been to the Hoop Dee Doo Revue, you should go. The show is good, the food is great, and the drinks are fabulous! Have a great night!"
I don't think anyone here is advocating banning ALL alcohol in any way. When YOUR fun infringes on MINE, though, that's when the line is crossed & vice versa. It's called social skills.
Interesting thread. I just wrote a final and one of my 'patients' was a person who appeared drunk, staggered around, fell on the ground and passed but was in diabetic shock. We can never assume.
Thanks for everyone's opinions and ideas. I'd say we all have different ideas about 'what' is drunk and 'what' is inappropriate and really, as Joanne said, everyone's opinions and ideas are important!
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I don't think anyone here is advocating banning ALL alcohol in any way. When YOUR fun infringes on MINE, though, that's when the line is crossed & vice versa. It's called social skills.
Well said! It's the same as rights. Your rights end where mine begin. It totally is the same! Thanks for that imput!
There's no point in voicing my opinion on a matter if people are just going to 'gang up'. I stated quite clearly that its unacceptable for people to urinate on a wall(and its unnacceptable at any rate to harm another person). However, I dont think someone sleeping in their resort lobby might mean they are drunk. I think that if there's a complaint you have on someone regarding an accusation, you MUST have more proof than 'the lady walked through a fountain with a baby..' most people may not even know that fountain in DTD is there, you cannot be sure someone is drunk just b/c they are sleeping in the lobby...this person could just as well have narcolepsy or perhaps is just really tired. I am left wondering if this lady actually walked up to this sleeping person and smelled their breath or gave them a breath alyzer test whilst they were sleeping!! Also, can you fault a patron for ordering another round of beer on their vacay...just b/c they looked drunk to you??? I forget who said somthing about this but that was about all the detail they gave..I AM ASKING "What are these people doing specifically to harm you and your family?" Don't just type half the issue...I can't read anyone's mind. OLDMOM is about the only one on this thread that has given a specific statement about this problem,and even she didnt single anyone out, & that was after i pressed the issue. Don't get angsty with me having an opinion. We're all over the legal drinking limit here, I hope. i'm done commenting on this subject. I just wanted to know more of HOW people who were making comments knew that people were drunk. The drinking thing, i'm sure is outta hand. Drinking anywhere can get outta hand. It does suck b/c its a family park...but its inevitable. Ya'll have a good night, now
How bout these.. swearing, PDA's ,vomitting, talking loudy and swearing on rides (like Soaring), stumbling, falling..some of these people are then getting into a car and driving... I dont care to see this any time and esp not in theme park in the afternoon...
Noone was ganging up onyou, expressing their opinion just as you were