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Old 06-18-2005, 01:28 PM   #16
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Re: Not good news..

Great letter Joy.

The whole "nonrefundable" part really sticks in my craw, add that to the fact that you have to have an activated AP at booking (I can't activate an AP sitting in my pajamas at home....), plus you have to book 120 days out, and you only get one room, etc., etc. There is now no incentive to buy an AP except for the discount over buying regular tickets. That's it. I have no reason now to purchase an AP.
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Old 06-18-2005, 03:35 PM   #17
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My letter is on it's way. That just stinks!
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Old 06-18-2005, 03:36 PM   #18
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I found info. on the Mouse for Less which says this Best Passholder program will not replace the current AP program, but is an addition to the program.

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http://www.themouseforless.com/tripp...s/APnews.shtml
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Old 06-18-2005, 04:55 PM   #19
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I hope the Mouseforless site is correct and this is just an alternative program. However, it really doesn't make much sense to me as an alternative as who, in their right mind, is going to choose an option that could cost them more and will involve a non-refundable deposit? And even if it is an option at the moment, how much longer before it becomes the ONLY option if Disney doesn't hear long and loud from all the AP holders and potential AP holders out there that this is not an acceptable alternative?

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Old 06-18-2005, 05:14 PM   #20
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I posted this on another thread under resorts, but I did talk to a CM who was very helpful and he said if it looks like from what he has read that the online bookings will get a better discount, so if you are willing to take the chance on losing your deposit, you should get a better rate.

I don't know what to do. I am testing it out right now to see if I can even book the same reservation that I already have. I know that we aren't going to cancel, no way, no how , UNLESS something tragic happens! However, there have been many a Disney trip cancelled because of illness, death in the family, job change, etc. so it scares me.

I'll keep you posted!
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Old 06-18-2005, 06:22 PM   #21
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Hmmmmph! It would be nice to know that the better discount is a sure thing.. And it would be very nice, as well, if they'd let you into the Passholder section (at least to book) if you have a voucher that you intend to activate when you ACTUALLY GO ON YOUR TRIP and NOT 120 days before!
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Old 06-18-2005, 06:45 PM   #22
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I don't understand how this is an alternative. Woldn't this mean that the usual periodic release of AP rates won't happen? And what happens if you don't have a computer? Disney only allows Who would book with a non-refundable deposit? DH has been cryig for a while that he is tired of Disney. This may be the reason he gets his way & we start going other places. It seems to me that Disney is going to lose a lot of money to cheaper off-site places who must be grinning from ear to ear about now. Before I wouldn't even consider off-site even knowing all the great deals to be had but now I'm definitely going to be considering it. Whre else can you get a 1 BR suite with free full breakfast for $89 a nigh? Not WDW. At this rate, we'll be trying new vacation spots

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Geez, that's horrible!! I will be rethinking my idea of buying an AP
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It's just such a WEIRD business decision! The ONLY benefit that I see is that you are insured of getting the LOWEST rate and you don't have to keep checking it yourself. Now if you're that concerned about not doing the work yourself, you get a travel agent that you trust to do that FOR you. But the most unpalettable part is that NON REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT!! What's up with that! It's not as much at a value resort, but it could be HUGE at a deluxe. And it seems like it's the deluxes most AP users are going to. Now a non-refundable deposit of some kind makes sense, or just do it like they do for the dinner shows. And has anyone seen any information about CHANGING reservations in case you need to change dates or even category of resort?
So do they think that all these AP'ers that aren't getting great rates are going to flock enmass to DVC? Are there enough rooms for that many? It's just madness and I think something strange is going on.
I'm sure the AAA folks are ginning from ear to ear. They've got the best discounts at the moment.
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Old 06-20-2005, 10:47 AM   #25
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My letter to Disney is on it's way. This is absolutely ridiculous. I was planning on renewing our AP's in November of this year but if this is the trend of the way AP benefits are going, I will not be renewing.
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This is just a cryin' shame.....
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There must be something going on that they felt a need to institute this policy.....
Perhaps alot of AP holders were reserving rooms and then not using them?
methinks we're not seeing the whole story.
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Why would I reserve a deluxe room at $300. a night (with a non-refundable deposit) in the hopes I'm going to get a good AP rate in the near future?
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