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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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06-30-2004, 10:57 AM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 2,066
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Re: Mother Rant (kinda long)
Geesh Kristine how irritating! I would definitely set up some boundaries with your Mom. I can see how you wouldn't want to hurt her or risk your relationship with her but she definitley shouldn't be talking to your DD behind your back about this. I think it is absolutely your choice wether or not to attend the wedding but I would revisit the issue when you are a little less upset. Just to make sure you don't want to at least attend the ceremony. Good luck with such a tough decision.
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06-30-2004, 04:19 PM
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#17
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Community Rank: Traveler
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Fort Collins, CO
Posts: 294
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Re: Mother Rant (kinda long)
While I had an afternoon wedding/reception that was all inclusive (and we had no problems), I can totally understand why the wedding couple want an adult only wedding. Not all parents are considerate. For example, my husband and daughter (age 13) went to see a movie recently and a couple with a 2 year old sat behind them. This movie was totally inappropriate for a 2 year old (Van Helsing). So naturally, he was bored. He was yelling, kicking the seats. Parents solution? They moved several seats apart so that he could run up and down the row and make more noise. He pulled my daughters hair (my husband didn't realize this until they were talking about it later). People several rows in front of them were turning around to see what the noise was. After the movie, my husband said to them, "Next time do everyone a favor and get a sitter." Their response? "If he bothered you, you could move." Some people are just very selfish.
Since you can't trust parents to remove their children if they become disruptive (sometimes parents don't realize how disruptive their children or themselves dealing with their children really are - others don't care), it is safer to just say no children.
If it was me, I would have hired a sitter for the 2 year old and the rest of us would go to the wedding. Depending on the logistics, either none of us would go to the reception or if it wasn't too much of a hassle, we would drop the daughter off at home with the sitter. But then, I had no problems hiring sitters when my children were young - they survived just fine and are responsible teens now.
Now I do agree your mother is totally out of line for going behind your back. Once you make your decision, she had no right to go and talk with your daughter and buy the dress. She could talk to you about it if she disagreed, but not your daugher.
Karen
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07-01-2004, 08:08 AM
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#18
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Niagara Falls
Concierge Level: 3
Posts: 12,431
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Re: Mother Rant (kinda long)
Your brother can't tell kids not to come to the church. It's a CHURCh. Everyone is allowed at the church!
I had an adult reception, with 4 exceptions: my two cousins who were 10 and 6. They're my first cousins, my babies, and their mom, my aunt (my dad's little sister) was in my wedding. OF COURSE they would be there. The other two were my third cousin who's 11 that I'm close with her whole family and my mom's best friend's daughter (who is like a cousin to me) who was 12.
It's a shame your brother can't meet you halfway, or in this case, a lot of people halfway...kids at the church, but not the reception.
And his future step daughters can't even go??? That makes NO sense! Not the best way to impress those girls, if you ask me.
I hope this all gets resolved. You need to sit your mom down and resolve this quckly.
Good luck
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07-01-2004, 08:30 AM
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#19
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RED SOX NATION!!
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Connecticut
Concierge Level: 9
Posts: 136,854
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Re: Mother Rant (kinda long)
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07-04-2004, 07:31 PM
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Living Seas wannabe
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 31,940
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Re: Mother Rant (kinda long)
I hope this works out ok.
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07-05-2004, 06:51 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 10,351
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Re: Mother Rant (kinda long)
Here's some pixie dust that things work out for you and your family. If your DB and his fiance didn't want children at the wedding and reception, why didn't they make that known months ago when they were planning the wedding initially? They also shouldn't have planned to have your DD and his fiance's children take part in the ceremony if they weren't planning on having children at all at the church or the reception. I would think your DD and the other girls would be hurt to be part of the wedding party but not allowed to attend the reception with the rest of the party later. Do you think it is a matter of not wanting to pay for all of the kids to be at the reception? If so, maybe they could make special arrangements for special "kid plates" to be served which might be cheaper. At my cousin's wedding they did this and everyone was happy--kids and adults. As far as your mother going behind your back, I wouldn't be happy about that either. That really isn't her place to interfere although maybe in her mind she was only trying to help the situation. Either way, this wedding is causing a major rift in your family and is not going to be the joyous occasion your brother and his fiance once imagined. Good luck and keep us posted!
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07-05-2004, 11:08 PM
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#22
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Community Rank: Adventurer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern NJ
Posts: 969
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Re: Mother Rant (kinda long)
This must be in the air...we're leaving on Wednesday for my DH's cousin's wedding in Jax, FL (my DD is the flowergirl) and then we're going on to Disney after that. We convinced my DBiL and his family to come, as DSiL and her family will also be there (DSiL is matron of honor and DNephew is ringbearer). To make a long story short...we just found out last Monday (yes...a week and a couple days before we are to leave) that no kids are allowed at the reception, including the flowergirl and ringbearer!!! We had known about getting a babysitter in our room, however, no one mentioned it was for the entire time! We had thought it was only after the kids were getting tired and then we could bring them to our room where the sitter would stay with them. My DH flipped!! Plus, we've never had anyone babysit our kids that were strangers. Needless to say, we are bringing my son to the ceremony (he's 3) to see his sister walk down the aisle and then I am bringing him back to the room for pizza and games. Then, after my daughter is introduced into the reception, I then have to walk her back to the room (all dressed up) to have pizza in the room. I feel bad for her because she was really disappointed that she couldn't stay. I also feel for the bride because it was her stepmom that created this whole fiasco. She complained that none of her family was part of the ceremony (the bride has no relation to her side) and complained that the flowergirl and ringbearer can't be at the reception. I guess because her stepmom and dad and her mom and stepdad are splitting the cost, she really didn't have much to say. Oh well...it should prove to be VERY interesting! We (meaning me and DH, DBiLs and DSiLs, and the grandparents) all have decided to take shifts to check on the kids and stay back at the rooms if needed.
Wish us luck!
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