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[WillCAD]

Originally Posted by CinderAbby

Can anyone explain what this means?



Does this mean you could get a FP for say Splash Mountain and after you've use your 3, you could get another one for Splash (if there are any left)? The wording just makes no sense to me whatsoever.

Sounds to me like the revolving 4th would work just like the legacy FP system. Use it, then get another, as many as you want, throughout the day, and the revolving 4th would be independent of the 3 advance selections.

I like this option. It's the best of both worlds - you'd have 3 advance selections, plus a 4th that is indpendent, just like when they had the FP+ and legacy FP system both working during the test phase. I think this option would work best if the tiered system were kept for the 3 advance selections, but no tiers were in place for the 4th selection. It's also less complicated than some of the other options in the poll.

One thing I don't care for is letting off-site Guests make advance selections. I think 60-day advance selections should be reserved as a perk for on-site Guests, and 7-day advance selections for Passholders (actually, I think Passholders should be able to make 14-day advance selections instead of the current 7-day), and off-site Guests should be able to make their selections same-day only, or perhaps 24 hours in advance at most.

[E(ticket)lizabeth]

I agree that the 4th "revolving" FP seems to be available for ANY attraction, even a top-tier. However, this was just a survey, so it doesn't give full info. PLEASE, if you have any suggestions or complaints about the FP+ system (or any other, for that matter!), contact Disney! This proves they listen. I've been giving this same advice for over a decade--does anyone remember when Disney dropped the old EE program? There were no Extra Magic Hours yet to replace it--my DH & I started a "complaint campaign" and within less than a year, look what happened! They may not listen to every little complaint, but if they get enough about a single event/situation/system, they make changes. Happy emailing!

[Alliecat]

I don't quite understand the 4th FP+... as I understood it, you only have 3 per day, period.

I also agree that non-resort guests should be kept at the same day reservations since there's only so many slots per time slot and per attraction.

Annual Pass holders I think get a bum deal and should be allowed 14 days in advance, not just 7.

But that's just me.

[WillCAD]

Originally Posted by Alliecat

I don't quite understand the 4th FP+... as I understood it, you only have 3 per day, period.

I also agree that non-resort guests should be kept at the same day reservations since there's only so many slots per time slot and per attraction.

Annual Pass holders I think get a bum deal and should be allowed 14 days in advance, not just 7.

But that's just me.

There is no 4th FP yet. A 4th "revolving" FP was the subject of a question in a poll put out by Disney recently. They wanted to know if the Guests would like it if a 4th revolving FP were added, along with the 3 advance selections.

[CinderAbby]

Sounds to me like the revolving 4th would work just like the legacy FP system. Use it, then get another, as many as you want, throughout the day, and the revolving 4th would be independent of the 3 advance selections.

Put like that, that's a good option - and I think more fair than use one, get one, have 3 at all times that I know was one of the other options. Having to use your three first and then getting another one would spread it out I think and leave availability to choose from later in the day. Probably not for the really popular rides (i.e Soarin, TSM) but I'm sure there would be enough options to please most people.

As for the pre-selection, a big part of me disagrees with off site guests getting to do it. It should be a perk for staying on property, like getting to do ADR's at 180+10. Now having said that (because off site guests can do ADR's at 180, they just don't get the +10), the other part of me agrees with off site guests getting to do it, but they should only get a week or so to do it, not the same amount of time as on site guests or Passholders. For passholders, I think if you're staying at Disney, then you should get the 60 days, if not staying at Disney 2 weeks minimum would be fair IMO.

[ilovedisney247]

I think it is unlikely that we will see a 4th FP option before all of the issues are ironed out. It may be coming, but I would guess that it is far in the future.

[Sue M.]

It seems to me from survey examples, that what would be left in the FP pool to choose from after your 3 FP+ are used up would be things you wouldn't need a FP for anyway. Much like picks from 2nd tier at Epcot, no FP needed for the attractions in that group.
I'd be happier just getting rid of the tiers!

[Thomhazel]

Originally Posted by E(ticket)lizabeth

I just got a survey asking me about some new FP+ options--looks like Disney is beginning to listen to all the complaints about the limitations of the new system. One option looks really good, so here's hoping!

I'm not convinced it is so much Disney listening to people's complaints as more the naturel evolution of the system as it moves out of testing into implimentation.

It is very unusual to test a system at full strenth and i'm convinced a lot of the limitations are due to the fact what they were doing was testing not rolling out.

[WillCAD]

Originally Posted by Sue M.

It seems to me from survey examples, that what would be left in the FP pool to choose from after your 3 FP+ are used up would be things you wouldn't need a FP for anyway. Much like picks from 2nd tier at Epcot, no FP needed for the attractions in that group.
I'd be happier just getting rid of the tiers!

I think the whole purpose of the tier system was to prevent FPs for all the most popular attractions from dissappearing too quickly.


As such, I think the tiers would actually prevent the good FPs from being used up, allowing the 4th rotating FP to work for e-ticket attractions.

[E(ticket)lizabeth]

I've seen a couple of you mention that AP holders can make online ressies 7 days in advance. Not me--I'm a local, I have my FL Resident AP, and I can't access the online ressie system AT ALL. I've been griping about this since it started! I hope they let me get FPs soon, because I'm getting tired of having no chance at all to ride more than one Tier 1 attraction, maybe 2 if I'm really, really fast and really, really lucky!

[JerseyDad]

Originally Posted by Sue M.

Interesting survey, but I don't see anything about getting rid of the tiers :-(

......or how much they will charge when then unleash the pay-to-play option to buy additional FP+'s ?

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[honeybee723]

After being able to schedule my fastpassses last night, I'm so ready to take that survey today. I have so many issues with this system. For someone who's been going to WDW more times than I can remember, it makes even the most well versed Disney person want to throw themselves in front of a bus.

I think the two things that frustrate me the most about all of this is the fact that 1) what's the point of having park hopper passes if you must use all of your FPs in the same park on the same day? 2) What happened to spontaneity in your vacation? It's gone. Yeah, you can tweek your passes when you get there that day, but who's to say those passes are even going to be available to tweek?

I'm so aggravated.

[DisneyWitch]

I'm kind of liking that 4th revolving FP. You can schedule your first 3 in advance, and then schedule the last FP on the fly - provided they don't limit your choices to it's a small world or something that I wouldn't normally get a FP for.

Makes it that much more important to have a device that runs the My Disney Experience app well.

[Silvercat]

I'd just like to raise my head tentatively above the parapet and say please don't exclude offsite guests from the same reservation ability - not everyone can afford to stay onsite, you know! Onsite guests already get a whole variety of perks (early morning/extra magic hours, free transportation to the parks, dining plans, Disney immersion and toiletries in the resort hotels, etc), and to make the FP+ another exclusivity seems rather unfair to me.

When my kiddoes were little, we really couldn't afford to stay anywhere other than an offsite villa, and now we are visiting childless, luckily we can just about manage onsite accommodation, but I wouldn't rule out financial circumstances driving us down the offsite road again. One of the nicest things about visiting a Disney park has always been, thanks to Fastpasses, the ability to view lots of attractions, ride lots of rides, see lots of shows etc., and if the withdrawal of FP+ to offsite guests were to go ahead, these guests would effectively be unable to experience many of the rides and shows due to time constraints imposed by having to stand in queues for 2+ hours!

Please don't make offsiters feel like second-class citizens ........

[WillCAD]

Originally Posted by E(ticket)lizabeth

I've seen a couple of you mention that AP holders can make online ressies 7 days in advance. Not me--I'm a local, I have my FL Resident AP, and I can't access the online ressie system AT ALL. I've been griping about this since it started! I hope they let me get FPs soon, because I'm getting tired of having no chance at all to ride more than one Tier 1 attraction, maybe 2 if I'm really, really fast and really, really lucky!

That doesn't make me feel all warm and fuzzy. I know that FL Res APs have different benefit levels than standard or premium APs, but no advance FastPass for FL Res Passholders stinks on ice.

Originally Posted by JerseyDad

......or how much they will charge when then unleash the pay-to-play option to buy additional FP+'s ?

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The rumors of paing for FP have literally been around since FastPass's inception 15 years ago. It's not impossible, but it's highly unlikely that Disney will ever unleash ANY paid options for FP; much more likely is that they will tweak the number of FPs, the tiers, and the time periods of advance selections, depending on the type of Guest (on-site, off-site, Passholder). I also see them adding additional FPs as components of packages, much like they throw in free dining in September and included a refillable mug for all dining plan purchasers.

Originally Posted by honeybee723

After being able to schedule my fastpassses last night, I'm so ready to take that survey today. I have so many issues with this system. For someone who's been going to WDW more times than I can remember, it makes even the most well versed Disney person want to throw themselves in front of a bus.

I think the two things that frustrate me the most about all of this is the fact that 1) what's the point of having park hopper passes if you must use all of your FPs in the same park on the same day? 2) What happened to spontaneity in your vacation? It's gone. Yeah, you can tweek your passes when you get there that day, but who's to say those passes are even going to be available to tweek?

I'm so aggravated.

1) Park hopping is not dead. You can't use FP in more than one park, but that doesn't mean you can't go to more than one park. You just have to use stand-by lines in the other parks.


2) Spontineity is not gone. You can still be spontaneous. Just don't use FP - every attraction at every Disney park still has a standby line. As for FP availability, all of the reports, as well as my own experience in December 2013, show that Disney is somehow holding back FPs for most attractions to guarantee that they're not all taken by lunch time.

There are two things that are part of EVERY theme park experience in the world, be it at a Disney park, a Universal park, or anywhere else - standing in lines, and dealing with crowds. FP has been a great tool for reducing the line standing, but I think we've all become a little too snobby about waiting in the stand-by line the way we did prior to 1999 when FastPass was introduced.