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I am not a fan of being IN the snow but I like most of the snow based events. I really enjoyed all of the snowboarding and the new ski events (halfpipe, slopestyle)!
About the hockey game today, all I can say is that I am not sure the US could have done anything to stop that final goal in overtime. It happened quick enough to kind of leave the US's heads spinning there for a second. That said, I think the penalty calls there towards the end were a little questionable, personally. I didn't really see slashing on that first call as much as I saw the US player going after the puck at the same time as the Canadian player went to her knees to block it. And the cross-checking call, I thought, was kind of bogus. It looked like she fell forward and there was kind of more of a chain reaction than anything! But, what can you do? It's definitely a tough loss but a silver medal is better than NO medal!
On to the men's game tomorrow! Hopefully TJ Oshie pulls another fantastic game out of his stick like he did the other day! Go USA Hockey!
some people here feel sorry that the Russians didn't win at hockey since it means so much to them. Am I terrible that I don't feel that way? Would they feel that way about us if it had been reversed? It is a game, but maybe to them, it is more than that. Or maybe I am just cold hearted? I don't know.....
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I just heard a funny....The Canadian Mens hockey team (I am from Canada, keep that in mind LOL), must win against the USA because whoever looses has to keep Justin Beiber LOL LOL LOL. That is enough incentive for Sidney Crosby.....
some people here feel sorry that the Russians didn't win at hockey since it means so much to them. Am I terrible that I don't feel that way? Would they feel that way about us if it had been reversed? It is a game, but maybe to them, it is more than that. Or maybe I am just cold hearted? I don't know.....
You're not coldhearted at all. I don't feel bad for the Russians either. They had just as much chance to win as any of the other teams. Same goes for all of the other athletes in all of the other sports. (And it goes both ways too... I am absolutely annoyed/embarrassed/enraged by the US figure skater Ashley Wagner's whining and fit-throwing because a Russian girl won the women's skating and she didn't medal.)
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You're not coldhearted at all. I don't feel bad for the Russians either. They had just as much chance to win as any of the other teams. Same goes for all of the other athletes in all of the other sports. (And it goes both ways too... I am absolutely annoyed/embarrassed/enraged by the US figure skater Ashley Wagner's whining and fit-throwing because a Russian girl won the women's skating and she didn't medal.)
Thankyou. I feel the same way as you do. They had every opportunity to win and it was on their home rink too.
UGH!!! Jonathan Quick couldn't save the day but he honestly looked to be the only player out there today that cared if he was there or not. 31 shots on goal and you can't make ONE in? That game was infuriating.
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Oh, by the way...you get Justin Beiber
Can't we all just agree to ship him to Siberia instead?
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I am absolutely annoyed/embarrassed/enraged by the US figure skater Ashley Wagner's whining and fit-throwing because a Russian girl won the women's skating and she didn't medal.)
If I am being completely honest, I think she might be on to something, really. She isn't so much complaining that she didn't medal but that people who fell, when she skated clean (if you don't count her toe catching as she came out of a jump), were scored much higher than her. And she isn't the only one who thinks the judging is suspect either. Dick Button and Kurt Browning both thought something was a little off that Sotnikova scored so much higher.
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Dick Button, a men's figure skating two-time Olympic gold medalist, said he didn't think Sotnikova was the whole package.
It didn't help that one of the judges had been suspended for a year for trying to fix an event at the Winter Olympics 16 years ago. Or that another is married to the head of the Russian figure skating federation.
Since I can't paste quotes(technically challenged you know...). I agree....Siberia...Yes, he will do well there since he is used to the cold. What an embarrassment to our country
Oh, and here is another one that you have probably heard but worth saying again. The Canadian Mens hockey coach said to the hockey players before they went on the ice "now go and play hockey like a woman" LOL LOL LOL.
I didn't follow the skating sorry. So I can't comment except to be fascinated that you knew who Kirk Browning was
If I am being completely honest, I think she might be on to something, really. She isn't so much complaining that she didn't medal but that people who fell, when she skated clean (if you don't count her toe catching as she came out of a jump), were scored much higher than her. And she isn't the only one who thinks the judging is suspect either. Dick Button and Kurt Browning both thought something was a little off that Sotnikova scored so much higher.
It seems though that she doesn't understand the newer scoring system. They explained a lot about it during the men's competition (where the man who won the gold - not from Russia - fell TWICE). They reward people who even attempt the more difficult jumps (quads for men, triples - especially axles - for women) many more points for trying them, even if they fall or stumble on the landing than they do for people who skate clean but choose a program with easier jumps/choreography. Does it entirely make sense to me? No, but the skaters know that's how it is scored and should choose their program accordingly. I also think that even if a skater thinks that the scoring is suspect, it is in no way their responsibility to rant and rave to the press and sound like a sore loser. They have a coach - let that person stand up for them and go to the proper outlets, not crying to the press. Whether she had a point in this particular round or not, Ashley Wagner has had a horrified, disgusted look on her face every single time they've announced a score for her - starting with the team event where she quite blatantly swore like a sailor when she knew the camera was zoomed in on her face. Way to be a role model. And in that instance, the announcers were quite clear that they agreed with her score and when she saw the tape felt that she would understand her mistakes. I just do not think she represents the US with any class, grace, or dignity whatsoever. She seems to forget that it was a huge controversy that she even got into the Olympics at all.
This quote is also from the article you posted, and it helps explain the type of scoring that is used now:
"It's debatable, but not a robbery," wrote Chris Chase of USA Today. "Sotnikova skated well enough to win gold. She had a carefully constructed program with seven triples, five of which were in a combo. Kim had six and three, respectively. Thus, Sotnikova was going in with a higher total and made more margin for error, which she took advantage of with a minor hop after one exchange."
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). I agree....Siberia...Yes, he will do well there since he is used to the cold. What an embarrassment to our country
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