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In most cases--I've been advising people to tour the parks using a touring plan in the mornings and plan their Fast Passes in the afternoon or at the second park they are visiting!

If you get to an attraction that you have a FP for and the wait is short--get in the standby line and change your FP to something else either on your smart phone or at one of the FP+ kiosks in the parks!
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I didn't think of that, what a great idea to do rope drop and then get your FP+ for a different park in the afternoon, especially when you can use them for Fantasmic and stuff.
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In most cases--I've been advising people to tour the parks using a touring plan in the mornings and plan their Fast Passes in the afternoon or at the second park they are visiting!

If you get to an attraction that you have a FP for and the wait is short--get in the standby line and change your FP to something else either on your smart phone or at one of the FP+ kiosks in the parks!
And if everyone does this, the parks will be very crowded in the mornings. We like to get there early to avoid the crowds. And if everyone is trying to change their Fastpasses via their cell phones, can you imagine how slow the Wi-Fi will be, or how slow the site will be? It will take forever to change your Fastpass. And then if you parkhop, you won't be able to get a Fastpass for anything, which makes Parkhopping useless for anything except dining. We don't use a touring plan, but instead we visit the park that has EMH.

I'm not trying to start an argument, just trying to work through some of these new developments. Certain changes I don't mind, but I don't like some of these recent developments. I suppose I will have to adjust, but I'll have to really think about the way I want to approach this.
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We always hop. We usually do one park in the morning, go back to the room for nap and/or swim, and go to whatever park has evening EMHs for dinner and fun. Since crowds are usually relatively light for evening EMHs, there is no need for fastpasses, so I am getting our FP+ for the morning park.

I don't think that I could live without hopping because I really really really hate being trapped at MK when it is so crowded that you can barely move! When that happens, I like to hop on the monorail and go over to Epcot where there is usually plenty of space and go back to MK another time. However, you never know how crowded it is going to be until you actually get there - so I really like having options.

Hopping is essential for our trip next week also because we will be staying at BCV and I plan to run over to Epcot (my fave park) EVERY chance I get. I want to sneak over there for breakfast at the French bakery while DH and the kids are still in bed, and I want to take DD over there to complete some more Agent P missions while DH and DS are napping, etc.

Therefore, I think that I will keep the PHs for a while. I like the freedom it gives us and it works best for us.
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We always hop. We usually do one park in the morning, go back to the room for nap and/or swim, and go to whatever park has evening EMHs for dinner and fun. Since crowds are usually relatively light for evening EMHs, there is no need for fastpasses, so I am getting our FP+ for the morning park.

I don't think that I could live without hopping because I really really really hate being trapped at MK when it is so crowded that you can barely move! When that happens, I like to hop on the monorail and go over to Epcot where there is usually plenty of space and go back to MK another time. However, you never know how crowded it is going to be until you actually get there - so I really like having options.

Hopping is essential for our trip next week also because we will be staying at BCV and I plan to run over to Epcot (my fave park) EVERY chance I get. I want to sneak over there for breakfast at the French bakery while DH and the kids are still in bed, and I want to take DD over there to complete some more Agent P missions while DH and DS are napping, etc.

Therefore, I think that I will keep the PHs for a while. I like the freedom it gives us and it works best for us.
Hopping into Epcot this next trip is also essential to us as we will be at YC and also plan to hit Epcot often. Is the bakery in France open for breakfast before WS opens at 11;00?
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How did I not know this already!!!!!!! I thought it was roped off so you could only head to Future World before WS opened.
Although walking over to the Boardwalk Bakery is a great plan too.
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wait...what?? how can I get there from the front of the park? do I just tell the cm that's where i'm going...


and i'm literally drooling about the food AND getting into WS early!
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I can't imagine no parkhoppers and I can't imagine only 3 Fastpasses a day. Three a day just doesn't work for us, no matter how you slice it. We really focus on the attractions more than anything else, so 3 will be really limiting for us. We'll really have to plan a lot more in order to maximize those 3 fastpasses.

And the most disappointing thing to me is no more little "magical" surprises - either a "surprise" fastpass or someone just walking by and handing you a fastpass they can't use.
I feel exactly the same way on both points! I really hope they get away from the only 3/day/1 park thing!
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wait...what?? how can I get there from the front of the park? do I just tell the cm that's where i'm going...


and i'm literally drooling about the food AND getting into WS early!
I'm not positive about this, but I'm guessing that it may only be accessible to people entering through the International Gateway?

We're staying at Boardwalk Villas for the first time this summer and I hadn't even thought about hopping over there for breakfast!! Very exciting!! (Not that I needed anything else to get me excited!)
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Strolling over to Epcot every evening is the main reason we get park hoppers every trip! We've stayed at the BC and YC every trip for this reason. I'm not sure how the FP+ would work for us?? Hopefully when we plan our next trip to the parks, they'll have this all figured out. I always loved the change of scenery/pace having two parks to visit in one day. I'd hate to lose that!
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and i'm literally drooling about the food AND getting into WS early!
That I don't know.

Our one stop in the bakery one night was not impressive to us so it wasn't something we wanted to try out for breakfast. We don't like the atmosphere and I've never been all that in love with the food. We'll stick with Sunshine Seasons if we want breakfast.
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We always get a Park Hopper. I couldn't imagine staying in only one park a day. LOL I think it will be interesting how this will change wait times for rides.
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Wouldn't it be nice if Park Hopper Tickets came with an extra FP+ or two that you could use at a second park in the same day - even if they took one away from your first park.
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We will be there in the next 2 weeks, but good friends of ours are Disney Greeters at EPOCT and here is some info.

The legacy fast pass is gone in AK and MK, all other parks will be gone shortly.

The Fast pass + is the new way of doing things and kiosks are being put up to accomidate day and onsite guests

The complaints are many, but over all, from what we were told, the average FP per person per day was 4. The new FP+ system is a way to control the flow through every park. They can quickly determine how many people will be in each park at anytime and where that population may be moving towards.

Not sure how all this is going to go, but will advise after we return
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