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Old 03-05-2012, 11:56 AM   #16
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You're right, putting them on the busses (and ferries, and monorails) would be a great place to get ahold of peoples' attention, and set them up to be paying better attention to their immediate surroundings. Adding them to the resort TV loops, too, would be good.
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What's even sadder is? I'm 100% certain that careless walking guests are responsible for at least as many incidents, as careless riding guests..
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I would hope they hand these out to people pushing strollers! I was hit on the shin so bad during the "post fireworks rush" the last time I was at Disney my heel actually bruised and some skin came off. The guy said I cut in front of him. Ummm... really? I was trying to merge into the line and he had stopped. He hit me 3 times..... the last time I did lose my temper and told him to stop. It was late, I had a headache and I had lost my dad. *sigh* I can't believe that Disney would "single out" anyone like that.
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I agree with all the posters who have stated about people not paying attention and walking into people on scooters, or try to run in front of, OR just stop short...even when following at a safe distance (which is VERY hard sometimes...you know...sardines).

On my trip in 2009, on the bridge to Adventureland, I had a mother look me straight in the eye, and then push her son right in front of me while telling him to "hurry up!". The father/grandfather (I am not sure which) looked at me with a frown, and said "Ugh, I'm so sorry. Sometimes she just doesn't think". Thankfully, I don't know what it was but something on her face before she pushed her son, that told me to slow waaay down. Glad I did or I would have hit him. I just had this bad feeling she was going to do something.
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That look on her face was probably "You, cripple: get out of my way".

IOW, it's not that "she doesn't think", it's that she has no consideration for anyone but herself. Such is my assessment, anyway.
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That look on her face was probably "You, cripple: get out of my way".

IOW, it's not that "she doesn't think", it's that she has no consideration for anyone but herself. Such is my assessment, anyway.

Yep! I agree 100% Pax!
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I agree that these type of courtesy pamphlets should be handed out to every single person that enters the parks! I mean really who hasn't at some point on a trip been looking one direction and walking another, stepped on someone's foot, ran into someone's child or stroller, turned around quickly, changed directions with no warning or stopped in the middle of the walkway???

I was on both sides of this story in 2008 on the 2nd day of our trip we were relaxing at the BWV, and I was quickly going into the bedroom and slammed my foot into the door jam (I think the wall should have been giving a pamphlet about getting out of my way ) and I broke my toe. The remainder of the trip my DH pushed me in a wheel chair. I can't tell you how difficult it is to have a broken toe in WDW (even in a wheel chair), at least 100 people bumped into my injured foot during the remainder of the trip. My husband was not pushing me around at a high rate of speed or running me into people, although I know sometimes he wanted to!

Honestly a pamphlet like this is so unnecessary because it is all common sense, sadly not everyone has a large supply of that anymore.

I think that Disney should produce a Park Etiquette Goofy Video that they play on the buses and in the resort. I can so envision Goofy demonstrating "proper" walking and scootering through the parks, as well as, how to not slam your foot into the door jam at the hotel!
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Does anyone have any more information on original topic? Has anyone seen this pamphlet yet?

And let's remember to give the walkers and the wheelers the benefit of the doubt! I'd say there are careful and not-so-careful people in both groups.
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We were hopeful to have a pamphlet by now, but have not got one.
But either way there are people that are polite & helpful to those of us using wheels as well as a very few that don't see us. Lets not blame everyone for a few bad apples..
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Does anyone have any more information on original topic? Has anyone seen this pamphlet yet?

And let's remember to give the walkers and the wheelers the benefit of the doubt! I'd say there are careful and not-so-careful people in both groups.
My sources tell me that the pamphlets were only handed out for a few days, then stopped.
I have not been able to see one yet nd all the people I talked to had thrown it away.

The gist of the complaints about the pamphlet have been that they were 'courtesy' oriented (i.e. because you are using an ECV, you need to follow these courtesy rules). If the same information had been packaged as "Safety" information, most people I talked to would have not had a problem with most of it
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My sources tell me that the pamphlets were only handed out for a few days, then stopped.
I have not been able to see one yet nd all the people I talked to had thrown it away.

The gist of the complaints about the pamphlet have been that they were 'courtesy' oriented (i.e. because you are using an ECV, you need to follow these courtesy rules). If the same information had been packaged as "Safety" information, most people I talked to would have not had a problem with most of it
Interesting distinctions, Sue. Thanks for the info!
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