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Old 02-03-2012, 12:24 PM   #16
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Made my day - keep the comedy coming...
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:14 PM   #17
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one says "Moo" and one says "baa"

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Guess he got his veal chops and lambchops mixed up. I wonder if he thinks a lambchop is a puppet??
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If he does not know that veal and lamb are not from the same animal [...]
... you know what just struck me, reading this line?

KOSHER.

The place definitely isn't providing Kosher meats from it's butchers, if the manager of that department doesn't even know what animal Veal comes from, or that cows and goats arn't the same kind of critter.

If they have any sort of certification? Go talk to a couple rabbis, have them review the place. Make sure to tell them about the "moo and baa, it's all the same animal" bit, too.
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... you know what just struck me, reading this line?

KOSHER.

The place definitely isn't providing Kosher meats from it's butchers, if the manager of that department doesn't even know what animal Veal comes from, or that cows and goats arn't the same kind of critter.

If they have any sort of certification? Go talk to a couple rabbis, have them review the place. Make sure to tell them about the "moo and baa, it's all the same animal" bit, too.
This is definitely not a Jewish community! There are Kosher butchers in Indiana - but it's about a 40 mile drive from our town. No, this is a national chain, and I've never seen a Kosher certification at any national grocery (even the one in the middle of the "Jewish Quarter" in Indy).
Just two things:
Veal isn't COW. Cow is a female bovine who has birthed a calf. Veal is almost always male calves and rarely female calves.
Lamb isn't GOAT. Lamb is infant Sheep, before the age of 12 months, usually less than 7 months.

I don't want to come off mean, I'm just particular about vocabulary. Plus, I'm living in a farming community and one of my best friends grew up on a sheep farm.
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Too funny! Write the letter--maybe it will get better!
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Eh. That's a bit nitpicky, because the entire species is generally called "cow" irrespective of gender. Hence Merriam-Webster putting as the #2 definition for "cow" the following:
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My bad; I honestly do know that, and have no idea why I typed "goat" at all.
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I have to say this gave me a great laugh today reading this. The lambchop puppet one was great. Yep one wonders how this guy got behind the meat counter. I would return with some typed information for him with what lamb and veal really are for his future ref. Especially if he is someone you need to deal with again. Thanks guys for making me laugh today I needed that. Glad I came into the Sunroom today.
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Nova has me laughing at the thought of a class on species of animals. Can you imagine a lady walking in with a shopping car full of lecture material to set up in the meat section of the grocer. Slide show, maybe videos, pictures, tests, and a lecture for the so called butcher.
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Eh. That's a bit nitpicky, because the entire species is generally called "cow" irrespective of gender. Hence Merriam-Webster putting as the #2 definition for "cow" the following:
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Okay - for those not living in farming communities, I'll let the cow/cattle thing slide. Here, the generic term is "Cattle". At fairs, we go to the "Cattle Barn" to see the cows, steers, and bulls. We don't go to the "Cow Barn".
We do go to the "Milk Barn": but that's a dairy co-op owned stand at the Indiana State Fair that carries all things dairy! Best grilled cheese sandwiches, shakes, fried cheese, ice cream, and milk you can get anywhere! And it's the cheapest meal at the fair!
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Well, the funny thing is, although the move was semi-recent ... I do live in a semi-=rural, semi-farming community now. One neighbor does keep horses, in a sizeable (to my city-boy eyes) field. Other people in the neighborhood and immediate area keep goats, chicken, and/or co- .. er, cattle.
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I shared this with my mom (thought it was too funny to keep to myself) & her thought was that perhaps there was a corporate take - over in the animal world.
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Aren't both cow babies and sheep babies Kosher?
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If I am not mistaken, its the way they butcher and prepare the animal that makes it Kosher.
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