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I remember not cleaning my room once... okay okay maybe it was or then once! Well my dad has this "I ask you twice then I'm telling you " thing. One time my sister and I lost our doll house because we didn't clean our rooms, the worse part was that we just got that doll house and WE had to clean it up!
He was rather nice about it - I've been known to bag it up and throw it away (or at least they thought that's what I did with it).
This is what we do with our DS -- and he knows I mean it 'cause he grew up hearing this story:
When I was a teenager, I got sick of my brother leaving his unmentionables on the bathroom floor every morning. After a while, I started collecting them in a bag in my closet. Being a 20 year old male, he'd just go out and buy more when he ran out. Eventually, I had a huge bag of worn undies and I followed him on a date. When they went into the movie, I opened the car and draped the undies over every surface of the car's interior.
He is the neatest, most organized person to this day and his wife is thankful that I was such a vindictive PITA when I was 16.
I have 4 bins of stuff that belongs to my DDs in the basement right now. They wouldn't clean it up, so they lost it all, lock, stock, and barrel. Ds#2 came across them just the other day and was going through them. Like a time capsule, he found lots of really cool things they had forgotten they had. They still let their room get a mess, but not like that was...
Can you just close the door so you don't have to look at her mess?
that was my approach- and they couldnt have friends over if their rooms were a mess- so they kept them clean- as adults, they are both neat, their apts are clean- I never felt the need for drama
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I don't think throwing out or confiscating stuff is the way to go. It is HER room after all, and she's the one that has to live in it. If it doesn't bother her and she's not always asking you where stuff is, then keep her door closed and ignore it.
When I was a teen, I always had a pile of clothes at the end of my bed. My mother didn't get on my case about them. She never made a case about it, ever. I could live with it, and she didn't have to look at it every day like me (I spent a lot of time in my room reading and doing homework). When I went to college, I just didn't do that anymore. My roommates never complained about me, because I did clean up after myself.
I guess my feeling about this is you have to pick your battles. Is this really the one you want to fight over? Do you want your daughter to remember you being "mean" about what her room looked like?
I just close the door. Life is too short to make a big deal over the mess. She has to live with it not me. I figure that when she can't find enough of her stuff she'll clean it herself.
Liz
I would have died of embarrassment if my folks touched my stuff! I was a clean freak and always rearranged my furniture and books as a teen. Now my kids have a weekly bedroom inspection and do chores daily but really what they do 'in there' I couldn't care less UNLESS guests are expected. However they are not allowed to dump loads of laundry in the hamper just because they found it on the floor - max. one set of clothes per person per day will be washed for them. Otherwise do it yourself!
Close the door and tell DH to get a hobby!
I tried closing the door with DS and not letting his friends come over but it didn't work with him. He's still a messy person and he's now 33. His ex is also very messy so their house was a disaster when they lived together. I think throwing out all his stuff would have worked better. DD has 2 kids (5 and 3) and she does throw things out (actually I think she gives them to the Salvation Army). They know and when she tells them to clean up, they do it right away.
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Okay, now she's just asking for trouble!! I looked in there this morning and she threw everything back on the floor!! He dad told her next time he'll put it in garbage bags. She said "I bought half that stuff!!" I said "so what, we bought the other half and it's our house!!" Kids......grrrrr
Sorry but I would go in there and bag all the stuff up and hide it. My DM did this
twice...once to me and once to my Dsis. She said that if we treated our stuff like
garbage then she would take it out like garbage. She did. I lost tons of stuff and
we didn't get anything back. Boy did I learn a lesson after that. Closing the door
and ignoring the issue isn't a solution. That is just telling the child that it's ok to
be a slob and life will be ok with them being one. I think your DH did the right
thing and I hope that my DD will learn that taking care of your stuff is part of
growing up and being a responsible adult.
She bought half the stuff but the house is yours. Good luck!
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I thought he was very nice to put it on her bed. I would have bagged it and taken it. I like the idea of making them buy it back too. I might modify that for my girls since they are younger and make them buy back things with extra "tasks" to do in the house. I have gotten so tired of constantly picking up their things.... I have got to do something.
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I would have died of embarrassment if my folks touched my stuff! I was a clean freak and always rearranged my furniture and books as a teen. Now my kids have a weekly bedroom inspection and do chores daily but really what they do 'in there' I couldn't care less UNLESS guests are expected. However they are not allowed to dump loads of laundry in the hamper just because they found it on the floor - max. one set of clothes per person per day will be washed for them. Otherwise do it yourself!
Close the door and tell DH to get a hobby!
I have gotten so ill w/my kids over dumping all their clothes in the hamper when they clean their rooms! Usually only a few pieces of clothing are dirty and the rest are clean, but they don't take time to sort; they just pile it all in the hamper! That's reason alone for me to remind them to keep it clean...... (I can't stand an overload of laundry!)
It's your home and you get to set the rules. You're the grown-up afterall. If you don't teach them to have pride in themselves or respect for their stuff then who will? She is being disrespectful to you and your DH. It's not like you're threatening the white glove treatment just some order.
I'm telling you this as a reformed slob. My room was a disaster growing up but my parents kept after me. When I got out on my own my home was spotless. It's because I had to pay for every piece of furniture and every item of clothing. I finally had respect for my things. Looking back, I can see how rude I was to my family by submitting them to my embarrassment of a room.
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