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Old 08-22-2009, 02:37 PM   #16
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Walt definitely accomplished that with Disneyland and his brother Roy accomplished it for him and in his memory with WDW.
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Old 08-22-2009, 03:41 PM   #17
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Definitely yes - and those are overwhelming results!
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Old 08-22-2009, 11:01 PM   #18
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Walt was such a visionary. I really hate that we lost him so soon.
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Old 08-22-2009, 11:46 PM   #19
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definitely nothing else like it
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Thank heavens he did, and that it endures!
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I think these boards prove it. We wouldn't be here if he hadn't succeeded.
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SOmeone voted "no". I am curious as to why. Hmmmmm. *Whoever it was that put in a no vote, I am just wondering what your reason was. Do you think more could be done?
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SOmeone voted "no". I am curious as to why. Hmmmmm. *Whoever it was that put in a no vote, I am just wondering what your reason was. Do you think more could be done?
I noticed that myself. I figure either the person has a good reason for voting no or it was a matter of a boo-boo vote (I've done those myself).
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I figure that he/she did have a good reason to vote no. I don't want him/her to feel as if they were going to be villified, but I am curious. I know Walt felt that the story should never be quite finished, that it should always continue to be plussed. Perhaps, that is what the voter meant. That Walt's work/dream was not quite finished.
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His vision definitely shaped the Magic Kingdom, and (as has been stated) his brother made it happen.

I'm not 100% sure that WDW's other "offerings" are totally as Walt might have wanted to see them, but it's a credit to the Imagineers who built Epcot, MGM Studios (now Hollywood Studios of course) and the Animal Kingdom, that Walt's ethos and "thinking" were echoed in these accomplishments.

Let's all hope that Walt's original vision continues to influence the future development of Disney Parks across the world, and that the unrelenting pursuit of the almighty US$, Euro, HK$ or Yen doesn't take over!
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I"m not sure about that "no" vote, but my own guess is that it's a snap answer to the question, without having considered the quote on the sign. "Did Walt Succeed?" He had a utopian dream of an Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow that was never built as he envisioned, and there are undoubtedly things in the world of Disney today that might be viewed as falling short of his dreams, or even violating them.

But success isn't an "all or nothing" proposition, and when dreams are turned into reality, things never quite turn out quite as envisioned. Everyone that touches a dream has an effect on its course, for good or for bad. I know that Walt has been a success in ways he could never have imagined, and, like so many visionaries, he was only able to see a small piece of the effect he has had on people and on world culture.

Some entertainers are content to leave the public entertained and to be enriched for having done it. Walt was among those who need to leave the audience (and society) enriched, as well. His efforts to nurture free imaginations, civility and mutual respect, and a belief in creating a better future (among other values) have made an impact far beyond the simple world of "bread and circuses." I think there are very, very few who have managed to succeed as he has.
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