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Old 03-01-2008, 09:33 AM   #16
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We went on Mission: Space green version this past August and DH thought it was the coolest ride EVER. He really wanted to try Orange after he experienced Green, but I talked him out of it. I say give the Green side a try, and then make the decision about Orange.
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DD & I got ill watching Cloverfield, so I dunno bout this MS! We didn't ride on our last trip, but will probably try the green next trip!
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DD & I got ill watching Cloverfield, so I dunno bout this MS!
Just wanted to comment that getting sick while watching a movie or a video game is more due to the jittery camera work -- as in, with a movie/game that bounces around and doesn't use a steady-cam, your eyes are telling the brain that there's movement, but your body isn't feeling movement so it starts flipping out a bit and people can feel sick to their stomachs. The reverse is true too -- personally, if I try to read something in a moving car, I get car sick because my eyes are seeing a stationary page of words, but my body feels movement. Yick! I'm sick!

With M:S, the movement is carefully tied to what you're seeing on-screen in front of you. If you close your eyes, your brain will no longer agree with your body on what's happening and ... yick! You'll get sick!

Again, I'm not advocating that people go on a ride they think will make them sick -- I'm all for guests loving the rides (and I appreciate the shorter lines when *I* want to go on M:S ) -- I'm just trying to explain what little I know about mitigating motion sickness.
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I'd say give the orange version a go. For me, the green version misses the point a bit -MS orange really feels like you're in a rocket. I get terribly motion sick, but I've never had any problems on Mission Space. Look straight ahead and you'll be ok.

I suppose, I'd rather experience all that WDW has to offer with the risk that I might feel a bit queasy, but that's just me.
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Just wanted to comment that getting sick while watching a movie or a video game is more due to the jittery camera work -- as in, with a movie/game that bounces around and doesn't use a steady-cam, your eyes are telling the brain that there's movement, but your body isn't feeling movement so it starts flipping out a bit and people can feel sick to their stomachs. The reverse is true too -- personally, if I try to read something in a moving car, I get car sick because my
This is what happens to me on MS-I can't handle motion simulators too well but can ride coasters all day long. I did OK on mission space, only had a headache afterward which advil took care of. The G-forces didn't bother me one bit and is the best rush you'll ever get on a ride-IMO. The feeling of being weightless and flying just about did me in, but that doesn't stop me from going on it. I found if I cover up one eye, I don't get as queasy for some reason.
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I've been on both versions (Orange first and then Green). My DH and I took his buddy on the Orange version first (we had both been before there were two versions) and buddy came off it and was kind of green around the gills! A couple of CMs were even checking on him. We took him outside, got him so fresh air and a cool drink and he was fine. Hey - he's the one who said "bring it on" after the first coaster ride!!! So we did!!! Took DSIL and my DS on the Green version - they did great - DS was kind of leery about it but had a blast. DSIL get motion sick but this didn't cause her any difficulty at all. If you are really worried - try the Green version and then if you're okay and feeling brave - head over to the Orange side!!
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My wife and I rode the mild version and loved it!! We rode it twice. We thought all the warnings were way over done. But I guess they are necessary to stop law suits.

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I've ridden M:S a bunch of times since it first opened, always the spinning side. When I rode it in Dec 07 it felt as though they had 'dumbed it down' just a bit, it didn't seem as intense. It was still a major thrill for me (I've always wanted to be an astronaut). So I would recommend the Orange ride and try to get engrossed in the story and make sure you perform your crew duty, they will help you take your mind off the idea of spinning.

And even though I am majorally claustrophobic, the tight space doesn't bother me, but I'm usually busy taking in all the theming - flipping switches, punching buttons, listening to CapComm - and I don't notice it all.

I hope you enjoy it - it's been one of my favorites since my very first mssion! "It's Go Time"
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For the sake of your 3 year old, I'd say go on the green version. The spinning was just too much pressure for me. It didn't make me sick, but it was sure hard to breath (but that had everything to do with me being fat). It just might be too much for someone so young. The video is exactly the same for the two rides, so all you will miss is the spinning/g-forces. Oh, and this is the one and only ride that has a blood pressure warning that I think needs one. No other ride messed with my blood pressure, but this one left me feeling like my head was going to explode. But not in the green version. The less intense version is a must do, though. It's great.
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I rode during the soft open. I commented to my wife that all the warning signs seemed to be really excessive. When they drug my out at the end of the ride, I was suggesting even more signs with BIGGER letters!!! I was out with motion sickness for the morning and a migraine for the rest of the day! Of course, my wife went back to ride it 3 more times - in a row! It is on her top 10 of rides. Go figure.
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DD has ridden both and loves it. DS rode it and felt weird the rest of the day. I would have thought that it would be the other way around.
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As a thrill seeker, I very sadly say I was disappointed by the Green Team on MISSION: SPACE. My sister, who was terrified and refused to ride, loves Star Tours. In my opinion, the Green Team has much less turbulence than Star Tours. You also feel much more secure and safe because of the over the shoulder style harnesses. The Orange Team, so i've heard, is much more intense. On Green, I could look over at the other passengers and take my eyes off the screen without any motion sickness. But for others, the milder version is still a little too much. I would suggest taking your kids on the Green team, then head back on Orange if they want more. Hope your vacation is awesome!
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