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Old 05-10-2007, 05:49 PM   #16
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I was going to suggest a Welsh Corgi. I had one growing up and she was the best. Meanest growl and showed her teeth to anyone she didn't know. But if she knew you, you'd better be ready to get wet with kisses!! She was the friendliest little thing to her favorite people. I don't know anything about the breed in general, just the one we had. It would be the right size, that's for sure.
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Oooh, I love Corgis. I co-owned and showed one when I was a teen and he was awesome! They're great little dogs who think they are much bigger than they really are. They're good with kids too. My dad always said that if my mom ever gave up Golden Retrievers he'd want a Corgi or two. Mom will never give up Goldens though.

Personally, we have an Australian Cattle Dog and he's wonderful. He's about 40-45 lbs though, which is a bit overweight for him. If you got a small female, you might be in the range you need though. They're great watch dogs and love kids. Mine never lets any of us out of his sight and an intruder would definitely think twice if they heard his bark and growl on the other side of the door.
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I feel I should mention, that I made my recommendation not based just on what dog I've had. Since I was 5 years old, I've lived with close to 2 dozen dogs in 4 different households. I've lived with shepherds of all kinds, labs, retrievers, shih-tzus, dalmations, spaniels, huskies, dachsunds, setters, rotties, pits, bulldogs, and even an ugly little hound dog. Not to mention an assortment of farm mutts. Spaniels are definitely the best family dogs, good bark for a security system, and big enough to be intimidating, but still a reasonable pet for a renter.

I - am a cat person, however.
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I had a beagle once. Barked constantly and dug under the fence/ran away frequently. Not a happy thing on an Army base. We finally had to give him away to a country family.

Had some kind of mix with a "slight case of anxiety" (read the details on the Corgi mix) which turned into a major case of anxiety and he was eventually put down for biting.

Currently have a Jindo. Slightly larger than what you're allowed (she's 40lbs), but she sheds like MAD. We could spin it, weave it, and provide hats and mittens for a small third world country. Her bark is so bad that the mail carrier has an "evil dog" paper in our sorting box and she routinely scares off solicitors (you can see them hurrying down the front steps... ) She is very needy, though, always underfoot. Strong prey instinct, so we have to keep her leashed all the time outdoors.

I'm hoping you have the cat thing in writing...good luck with it all!
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A cocker is a great breed, we loved ours. She was sweet and loveable, but not too little and no shedding whatsoever. We kept ours in a "field cut" so we didn't have to deal with much grooming. She was our first baby, and handled the kids' arrivals really well.
We now have schiperkes, which are also great dogs, and much more aware of strangers and such than our cocker ever was. They're both right around 20 pounds, and we adopted them both from a local rescue group. They do shed, though, but not as much as our big dog.
I've always wanted a Corgi...
You might try looking for local breed rescue groups once you narrow it down to a few, and then they can help you find the right dog for you. I do better this way because once I see them, I want to take them home. When the kids get older, and I'm home more I hope to foster rescue dogs til they can go on to their forever homes.
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DH and I have a Corgi. Victoria is the sweetest little thing. She really does weigh under 30 pounds, has a body of a bigger dog (with no legs and no tail) but can easily be carried around! Victoria loves cats and our young nieces (ages 4 and under). She loves to play and be taken for walks. I highly recommend a Corgi. Good luck with your decision.
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I recommend going to Petfinder.com: Adopt a pet and help an animal shelter rescue a puppy or kitten.
You can specify size, age, sex, state and breed. Then it pull up what dogs in shelters fit those descriptions. AND it will go for any dog with that breed listed - so if you put in Yorkie in NY area - you will get dogs in the state and surrounding state that are yorkies or yorkie mixes (btw - DSIs and I do that sometimes, and crack up over how homely and ugly the yorkie mixes are - bad breed to mix with anything!)

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even though they shed, pugs are great with kids, and cat and are adorable

and they can get to be up to 30 pounds though those are rare, they're closer to twenty...

they're great little companions

PugVillage.com - as with any breed research it fully before you decide

and there's always teh mix breed - you normally get the very best of which ever breeds are in the bloodline, and they are some of the best family dogs.
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At least it is a recommedation with EXPERIENCE though.

I just mentioned the beagle to DH and showed him a picture and all he said is "Dumb as a box of rocks." But . .. but . . . he's CUTE. http://www.vbspca.org/vbspcaed/PetLi...fm?PetID=71393


He's a bit more partial to this one, because he likes Corgis . . . and this one is HALF of one : Petfinder PetNotes
Ok- time to tell my cousin's best friend that beagles are NOT dumb as rocks!! They are SMART!!! Good luck on finding a pup and dealing with the property owner.....
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My friend has a beagle and she's very smart and good with kids. We have a pekingnese, and he's about 20 lbs and cute as a button - however, he loves everyone, so probably not the best guard dog.

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There's only one breed for me!
A WHIPPET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Short hair, Smart, 30 pounds
Great with everyone,
Loves to snuggle... Pretty and unique!
http://www.whippet-rescue.com/
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A WHIPPET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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http://www.whippet-rescue.com/
I agree whippets are great little dogs. Before I got Belle I was going to either get a whippet or a Boston. I ended up with a Scottie/corgi mix. From my experience (pet sitter, doggy daycare, grooming, showing) I would NOT recommend a cocker. The meanest unhealthiest dogs I have ever met were all cockers. They are prone to aggression and have a multitude of health problems in their lineage (thanks Lady & the Tramp!! ). Corgis are great but they will shed like MAD (thick, thick undercoat!). Your best bet is a mix breed. I am glad you found pet finder. I would be VERY careful of any profile that list “separation anxiety” that might cause some major problems later on. Also many rescues will not adopt to people that rent or people who don’t have fenced in back yards…so be aware. Also I know someone mentioned something about JRT and cats. I have known 5 different JRT and every one of them didn’t bother cats (even barn cats)….rabbits and mice…yes, but not cats. Most dogs learn very quickly that cats are the boss! Belle chases Mr. Max when he runs but when he has had enough of her he will turn around and bite her (in 3 years it has only happened 3 times). Just read up on the breed and decide if this is the type of dog that you want to bring into your family. Every major breed has their own website and dog. Most will have a FAQ section which is VERY helpful:

http://www.terrier.com/wwwboard/forum.php3

http://www.pembrokecorgi.org/faq.html

http://clubs.akc.org/NBC/

American Spaniel Club Inc. - Owning a Cocker Spaniel.

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"I would NOT recommend a cocker"
I totally agree Robin, Just the grooming bill would keep me away!
They have a snappy additute too...
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<gasp> Where did you all meet such mean little cockers?! I never met one that wasn't sweet as can be! I truly think a good dog is a result of a good owner. Pitbulls get a bad rap, but I know they can be wonderful family dogs if they're raised with love and guidance.

Still, an english springer spaniel would be my first choice as a renter for added security and peace of mind. Cockers are just a little too small and fluffy to be intimidating to an intruder.
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Funny, whippet was the first thing that came to my mind. Of the 2 dogs you had the link to, I thought Ginger (the corgie) fit the bill.
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