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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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12-04-2006, 07:40 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Connecticut
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 16,825
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Re: Married Children and Christmas
We each get stockings at both of our parents houses. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/082502yes_prv.gif[/img] We get individual gifts unless we specifically request something that is a "couple" gift. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/smileysanta.gif[/img]
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12-04-2006, 08:31 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Chapel Hill, NC USA
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 36,592
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Re: Married Children and Christmas
You should give your child the stocking for their own house. And buy one for the spouse. Then put a small gift from each of them in the stockings. That would be a very nice way to start them on their own traditions.
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12-04-2006, 12:07 PM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: York, PA , USA
Posts: 2,022
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Re: Married Children and Christmas
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My mother doesn't have stockings for any of us any more. We took our stockings when we moved out.
She does buy gifts for both, some joint gifts and some individual ones.
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Also, the amount spend did become less after we moved out or had children.....
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12-04-2006, 12:59 PM
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Eileeeeeeen!™
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 28,861
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Re: Married Children and Christmas
We put up stockings for everyone -- more for the "look" on the fireplace rather than anything else. Only the kids (known as "the short people" in our family [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] ) get anything other than candy, nuts and oranges in their stocking. (Kids get a small book, toys and a stuffed animal peeking out of the top!)
We also have recently begun only gifting the kiddies. I feel cheap admitting that I spend an average of $25 per niece/nephew and about $50 on my dad and Joan. The siblings don't do gifts anymore and we concentrate on the kids.
My Calder budget is about $200 and Santa tends to spend in the range of $100.
My biggest ticket items at Christmas are for food (DH *must* have his standing rib roast [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img] ) and the tree, which costs around $80-90 in our area for the size tree we get (9 feet).
My dad and Joan give $200 to the DH and me. (Which, when I write that, doesn't seem equitable since we spent about 1/4 that amount on them [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] )
Eileen
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12-04-2006, 03:44 PM
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Community Rank: Adventurer
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 948
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Re: Married Children and Christmas
My mom puts up stockings for all of us, she only fills them if we are spending Christmas at their house. She gives us each seperate gifts and also one gift together.
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12-04-2006, 04:10 PM
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Tinkerbell's Aunt
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: McHenry IL
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 13,254
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Re: Married Children and Christmas
Christmas is my Mom's thing, so everyone gets a stocking. The years my brother and his family don't come out she fills them and mails them out with the stipulation that they send the empty ones back to be reused each year. My DSis and I have the ones my grandmother made for us when we were kids.
My Mom also has a large budget for presents for each of us. If there are couple presents to be bought she takes half out of each member of the couple's budget. Last year was my first Christmas after the divorce and I think she added part of my ex's budget onto mine, but I think she's back to the basic amount this year. She's very careful to always spend the same amount on each of us.
My in-laws just gave gifts to the grandkids.
Joan - I think everyone does what they're comfortable with. My parents can afford to spend a fair amount and it gives my DMom a lot of pleasure to do it. We don't expect it and would be fine without it, but as she puts it - She likes seeing us enjoy the gifts and if she doesn't spend it on us now, she'll just leave it to us when she's gone. If I were you I'd do what you're comfortable with.
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12-04-2006, 10:55 PM
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Community Rank: Navigator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Davidsonville, MD
Posts: 6,563
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Re: Married Children and Christmas
It looks like a variety of ways to do this. I think I may give Camille her stocking to hang at her place. My mom doesn't hang one at hers, and Pat's mother never hung his once he left either. So that's how it's going to be here too. They need to start their own traditions now.
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12-05-2006, 01:53 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Florida Big Bend
Posts: 17,133
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Married Children and Christmas
Sounds like you figured it out!
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12-06-2006, 12:51 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Slate Belt, PA
Concierge Level: 7
Posts: 15,346
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Re: Married Children and Christmas
My mom doesn't do stockings for both of us. Neither does my dad. They both give us a "them" gift - usually cash to spend however we like. DMIL no longer does stockings for her kids now that they've all moved out, but she was doing just one stocking the last few years for her youngest son until he moved out. Now, she and her SO will give us a "them" cash gift of some sort and some smaller individual gifts. I've noticed that since they have a very small family, they tend to give more. It was the same with our wadding. DH's family gave larger cash gifts than mine because waddings are a more rare event for them.
BTW - my dad still hangs my stocking up at his house because his hanging alone does look kind of sad. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] My mom still has my childhood stocking (and my brother's), but she won't let us have them and as far as I know she doesn't hang them. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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