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Congratulations on your anniversary ! I look forward to reading all about your adventures. I always hear that Portugal is such a lovely place to visit. It's also fun to have a trip in Canadian funds !
Thank you, only the first day is in Canadian funds as we then switch to Euro's which was at about 1.5 when we went.
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Looking forward to reading more!
Thank you
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A long travel day, but good idea to get the hotel room.
Yes the hotel room makes a big difference, it might even just be the shower to freshen us up.
Thanks for the cost info.
Thanks for following along.
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Signing on. Portugal is a place we hope to visit someday so I am excited to hear all about it! Looking forward to reading more!
Thank you, we really do enjoy visiting I just wish we could afford to go more often.
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We left the airport heading out of Lisbon on the A1 towards our destination, Viana do Castelo, located on the Atlantic ocean near the border of Spain in the northern part of Portugal. We stopped at 10:51 for some lunch, grabbing 2 sandwiches, an orange Fanta and Pasteis de Nata (a custard tart that is famous in Portugal).
Enjoying lunch
All the major highways in Portugal have service stations with gas, convenience stores and restaurants. They are very clean and easy to pull into from the highways, which are well taken care of. People drive really fast, most people flew past us and we were doing about 120 km per hour. We stopped for gas at 12:26; our car was diesel and we had no trouble finding gas throughout our trip.
Our Car picked up a hitchhiker
We paid our toll; many of the main highways in Portugal are toll roads. They also now have electronic tolls - when you drive on a stretch with an electronic toll a camera snaps a picture of your license plate, you then have 5 days to get to a post office or a fine is added to your charge. Also it takes a few days for the post office to have the information, so you sometimes have to go in twice to pay, once for the beginning of your trip and once more if you travelled on the toll roads a few days later. We only found this out because we have family in Portugal who explained it to us, really the car company should have let us know. I can imagine a lot of tourists get home and then get charges on their credit card for these tolls and additional fines. Most of the locals avoid the toll roads and take the back roads; they take longer but are free.
Toll sign and toll plaza
We continued on towards Viana do Castelo, I could see a beautiful building up in the mountain and I said wouldn’t it be nice if that was our hotel, I was getting more excited the closer we got. We headed off the highway and soon were climbing a very circular road high above the city, right towards the beautiful building. It turns out it was the Church of Santa Luzia right in front of our hotel. We checked in at 3:30 pm, we had now been awake for 28 hours.
Continued from previous post, I hope that the pictures are ok for sizing, I am using photo bucket and resized them all before linking. Some days I have a lot of pictures so I will break up those posts.
The beauty of this hotel amazed me; everything was marble, all the floors and stairs and benches. We had a small room but the view was out of this world, over the town to the ocean. We also had a balcony with two chairs. According to the website Monte de Santa Luzia was built in 1918 as a hotel, it was later fixed up to the beauty it is today.
Outside of hotel
Bathroom complete with bidet
For some reason we were a little tired so we had a short nap. We then walked around the hotel, looking at the artwork and different rooms; we sat on the patio and ordered some beers, which they served with a side of nuts. We headed to the dining room for dinner at 8 pm. Most of the people in Portugal eat late, often not until 7 or 8 pm, this takes some getting used to as we normally eat at 5 or 6 pm. The dining room was very fancy, with a limited menu and French service. Most Portuguese restaurants start with a couvert, it can just be some bread and cheese or it might include olives, sliced meat and shrimp. The thing to know is that you pay for what you eat. If you don’t want any of it simply ask the waiter to take it back, you can also return some for example the shrimp but keep the olives. We always kept the olives, as I love them (any type, colour or flavour)! Sorry no pictures of dinner tonight.
The couvert at this restaurant was bread, olives, bites of pork, fried mushrooms and Chorizo (Portuguese sausage). We ate it all up! I had the bife pimenta (steak covered in gravy), it came with a side of cauliflower, broccoli, beans, and wedge cut fries. My DH had rabbit stew with potatoes. DH also had a glass of red wine. It was good, and we were too full to have dessert. We then headed to the room and to bed as we had not had too much sleep in the last 34 hours.
Another note, the waiters in Portugal are mostly men and they are very formal, I had to remember this was the way it is in Portugal as sometimes they appeared sort of rude, but it is just their way. Also tips are mostly included on bills, since this is not what we are used to we often forgot and tipped.
Tigger you are everywhere.
Costs today:
Lunch: €11.70 euro
Dinner: €62.20 euro
Beer: €3.00 euro
Internet: €14.00 euro
Gas: €73.00 euro for 44.95 L (at €1.624 euros per L)
Tolls: €20.95 euro (plus €16.13 paid later at post office for 3 days of electronic tolls)
Tips: €12.00 euro
Looks beautiful ! I can't believe how long you were able to stay awake.
I'm surprised at the price of the toll roads.
We try to stay awake to get on to the Portuguese time easier, the toll roads are expensive, thats why most local people avoid them. For us it depends on time and what views we want.
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What a beautiful hotel with a lovely view. Interesting about the toll roads, as in France and Spain you pay as you reach the end of the toll road, which seems a much more simple way to do things.
What a beautiful location for your hotel! The views are beautiful.
Thank you.
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Beautiful hotel and views. I like seeing Tigger enjoying himself in new places - you never know where he'll pop up
Tigger pops up a few more times on the trip.
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What a beautiful hotel! I love all of your pictures!!
Thank you, we do tend to take a lot of photos.
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Beautiful photos! And nice choice in the one you chose to hang above your bed. It's gorgeous!
Thank you.
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What a great start to your trip! Love the pictures!
Thank you.
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What a beautiful hotel with a lovely view. Interesting about the toll roads, as in France and Spain you pay as you reach the end of the toll road, which seems a much more simple way to do things.
The toll roads are confusing especially since for the most part you do pay at the end, so I am sure a lot of people don't even know about the electronic tolls.
We woke up at 7:00am refreshed and ready to start our day. We headed down to the dining room for our free breakfast. I had cheese, ham, chorizo, bread, fruit, yogurt and juice. DH had fruit, cakes, and juice; it was very nice and filling.
We wanted to explore Parque Nacional da Peneda Geres, a 271 sq mile National Park. Since it is such a large park we did not really have an address to input into the GPS, but we managed to find one online, set the GPS to ‘scenic route’, and off we went. Once we got off the highway and into the park, it turned into one of the most memorable drives I have ever taken. We drove up and down mountains, on very tight curvy roads - luckily there was not any other traffic as in many places only one car could fit on the road at a time. We were able to pull off the road often and take pictures as we drove along. It was very beautiful, the landscape was lush and at times we were so high that we were in the clouds. We came across what I thought were wild horses, only later to find out that the farmers lead the horses up into the mountains and leave them there until fall and then bring them back down. We also saw Minho cattle; these are cows with very long horns. We drove through one village and there were dogs lying right in the middle of the street. You could not drive around them as the road is too narrow, as you got closer the dogs would stand up and move, and as soon as you passed they would lay back down in the middle of the road.