Considering Renting from a DVC Member? - Page 2 - PassPorter - A Community of Walt Disney World, Disneyland, Disney Cruise Line, and General Travel Forums
As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Welcome! We're happy you've found the PassPorter Community -- the friendliest place to plan your vacation to Walt Disney World, Disney Cruise Line, Disneyland, and the world in general! You are now viewing the PassPorter Message Board Community as a guest, which gives you limited access. As our guest, feel free to browse our messages by selecting the forum you want to visit from the list below.
To post messages and ask questions, join our FREE community today and you'll get access to tools and resources not available to guests, such as our vacation countown timers, "living" avatars, private messaging system, database searches, downloads, and a special PassPorter discount code. Registration is fast, simple, and completely free. Just click the Join Our Community link.
If you think you've already joined, log in below now. If you don't remember your member name or password, please visit our Member Name and Password Recovery page. You are also welcome to contact us.
Here is a sample agreement. This is not legal advice and you should consult a qualified lawyer if you wish to ensure the legal intent of the agreement.
DVC Rental Agreement
This Agreement is made the __ day of ______, 200x by and between _________ (“Member”) and ______ (“Renter”) with the following Terms and Conditions:
1. Member agrees to use his Disney Vacation Club (DVC) points to provide a reservation for Renter at:
________ Villa - ___ bedroom villa to arrive on _________, 200x and depart on __________, 200x (____ points);
2. The reservations will be rented at the rate of $____________(___ points @ $__/pt plus fees) payable via money order, cashier's check or personal check;
3. Member will confirm availability with DVC Member Services and make a Reservation in Renter’s name. At this time Member will provide the Disney Vacation Club confirmation number to Renter. Upon receipt of written confirmation from DVC (this takes from seven to ten days), Member will mail the confirmation notice to Renter;
3. A deposit of 20%, plus exchange fees (if any), will be due within 10 days of the receipt of a printed confirmation (or copy) from Disney in the name of Renter. This deposit is non-refundable. The remaining balance of 80% of the payment will be due no later than due 60 days prior to the arrival date.
4. If payment is not received as agreed or returned for “insufficient funds”, the reservation shall be cancelled and any deposit and exchange fees (if any) forfeited;
5. All funds received are NON-REFUNDABLE. Member will always retain control over the reservation. Renter may not sub-lease to a third party.
This is an agreement to rent points that represent accommodations ONLY. There are no ticket media, transportation, meals/meal plans, transfers, insurance, or other items included. Such items and any additional costs therein are not included in the above referenced rate. Further, Renter understands that there is a not daily housekeeping service at DVC resorts. Additions such as the Disney Dining Plan (DDP) and Magical Express will have to be made on behalf of Renter through DVC by the Member. Renter will pay for the Disney Dining Plan during check-in at the resort. Renter may make their own dining reservations through the Disney dining number. Park tickets cannot be purchased through Member. Renter can purchase tickets on their own.
In addition to payment for points, Renter is responsible for any exchange fees assessed for non-DVC resort accommodations in the booking or re-booking of the reservation and are non-refundable.
Renter will email Member with the first and last names and ages of each person staying in the villa. Any special requests regarding room location, view and/or amenities will be made for the Renter by Member at the time of making the reservation but CANNOT be guaranteed.
In the event that the Renter wishes to change the reservation, Member will make reasonable efforts to assist Renter to make such changes. Renter should be aware that changes to the reservation may not be possible because of limited room availability. Any changes must take place on or before _________, 2008 and result in travel being completed by_______, 2008 as that is when the points will expire. Renter shall be responsible for 100% of any additional charges assessed or costs incurred to accommodate Renter’s changes. Payment for these changes shall be due upon e-mail or fax notice from Member. Confirmation of payment for such changes is required within 5 business days of such notice or reservation shall be cancelled.
Renter agrees to abide by all rules of the resort involving use of the facilities and to abide by all rules and policies of the Disney Vacation Club (DVC). Pets are not permitted to stay at DVC Resorts, except for service animals as defined by the Americans with Disabilities Act.
Renter understands that all DVC resorts are totally smoke free including the guest rooms, resort buildings, patios and balconies.
Renter agrees to provide the Resort with an acceptable credit card upon check-in for incidentals and any other charges imposed by the Resort connected to Renter’s stay at and use of the Resort.
Renter agrees to indemnify and hold harmless the Member due to any actions taken by Renter, Renter’s named party and/or Renter’s guests during the execution of the reservation.
Renter agrees to be responsible for any unpaid charges or damages to the unit rented, including all contents and improvements, Disney Vacation Club property and Disney property during his/her stay that are assessed against Member. Any unpaid charges or damages to the room, including all contents and improvements, DVC property and Disney property during his/her stay that are assessed against Member or his membership shall be reimbursed to Member by Renter within 10 business days of notice to Renter. Sending a fax or e-mail copy of a DVC or other Walt Disney Company communication assessing the charges or damages shall satisfy notice to Renter.
Any modifications of this Agreement are unenforceable unless in writing and signed by both the Member and Renter. This Agreement shall be governed under and interpreted and enforced in accordance with the laws of the State of xxxxx.
Reservation Summary
Reservation number (s):
Resort (s):
Additional Requests: DDP (extra expense payable at time of check-in) and Magical Express
Rate: $
Paid: $
Agreed and accepted on the date first shown above.
Attempting to rent points. It has been a while since the last time we did this. But could someone help me interpret the points charts.
I am looking at BWV, at the time I am looking for a studio Sun-Thurs is 12 points.
So this means that if I check in ON SUNDAY (stay sun, mon, tues, wed, thurs nights) and CHECK OUT on friday the total number needed would be 60 right???? THe owner that I am working with believes that to check out on Friday means that I pay the higher points rate. Please help.
yes, I am planning a 2009 trip. She hasn't rented points before and she is a relatively new owner. But it is someone that we know personally so I feel really comfortable renting from them. The resort I wish to stay in is not her home resort so we can't reserve yet anyway, but I want to be able to budget. I'd like to pay her in full when she makes the ressie. Thanks for your assistance.
Registered Message Board Members save 30% off PassPorter guidebooks! When you register you'll have access to a discount coupon good for 30% off the list price of PassPorter books in our online store.
yes, I am planning a 2009 trip. She hasn't rented points before and she is a relatively new owner. But it is someone that we know personally so I feel really comfortable renting from them. The resort I wish to stay in is not her home resort so we can't reserve yet anyway, but I want to be able to budget. I'd like to pay her in full when she makes the ressie. Thanks for your assistance.
OK, time for big, bad Tim to play grim reaper.
Based upon these comments...
* BoardWalk Studio
* 12 points per night
* 2009 trip
* can't book yet since not Home resort
...it sounds like you're trying to get November or December '09 in a BWV Studio.
I have to say I think your chances are fairly remote. Studios are reportedly the room size with the highest demand. And BWV is very popular during the fall Food & Wine Fest and then in the weeks leading up to Christmas.
If your friend is prepared to call at 9am on the first day he/she is eligible to book, you may have some chance. How good of a chance depends upon the exact dates. (If you're trying to visit in December, the resort is probably fully booked by BWV owners already.) If you wait a few days after that 7-month window opens you'll never get it.
If you really want to go, I'd suggest being prepared with a Plan B. Old Key West, Saratoga Springs and the Animal Kingdom Villas are all excellent resorts and they are all larger than the BoardWalk.
Thanks, I figured the chances were slim, the dates I was looking at are actually Nov 29 (5 night stay), and the points are apparently 9 not 12 a night, typo on my part. I am fully prepared for OKW and love that resort, but magic happens right? Her home is SS which is 12/night for the same time so I am holding out for what I would prefer.
standard view at BWV and AKV are 9 points a night for a studio
value view at AKV is 8 points, and OKW is 8 points - the new BLT will be opened and your chances for it as much better - 12 points for standard - that say standard will be hard - lv is 15 points and you should be able to get that one.
I just wanted to add that thousands of successful rental transactions have been completed throughout the history of the DVC program, and the savings are obvious. Reported instances of fraud occurring are small.
However, you should take whatever steps you feel are justified to become comfortable with the process prior to entering into a rental deal. You must understand that you are placing a great deal of faith in the DVC member's promise that a reservation has been made and will remain in force until your arrival.
Ok. I just went to Mouseowners and read there "new posters" thread. They are very intimidating and have no patience or tolerence for newbies it seems. I don't understand the lingo at all or how renting points works. I am not a DVC member. I just thought I'd look in to renting from a member as an option. They said in their "welcome" post that if we posted somthing wrong it would be deleted for stupidness. Quite frankly, I'm afaid to post. Is there another , friendlier site that may help?
Ok. I just went to Mouseowners and read there "new posters" thread. They are very intimidating and have no patience or tolerence for newbies it seems. I don't understand the lingo at all or how renting points works. I am not a DVC member. I just thought I'd look in to renting from a member as an option. They said in their "welcome" post that if we posted somthing wrong it would be deleted for stupidness. Quite frankly, I'm afaid to post. Is there another , friendlier site that may help?
If you think the rules for MouseOwners are tough, wait until you see the much stricter rules at DISBoards!
Both sites are friendly, but have rules to prevent their rental forums from getting out of hand. Most forums don't even permit rental postings because of the hassle.
Ok. Ty for the heads up. I haven't posted anything there. However, they aren't friendly as you say at all really. The opening post was very rude at mouseowners. Its not strict to call ppl stupid, its just rude. If the other place is worse, then I won't be visiting that site. They obviously do not need or want anyone to rent. They won't lose sleep over not getting my business. Nor will I lose sleep over not renting points. I'll visit Disney another way. My idea of friendly is very different I guess. lol. Dang those DVC villas are nice though.
Registered Message Board Members Get Our Free Newsletter! When you register you'll have the option to sign up for our weekly PassPorter Newsletter. It's chock-full of feature articles; news; tips; contests; photos; and special offers in our online store.