Value resort warning: Beware of Cheerleaders
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**yalibrarian** · 05-02-2006, 01:05 PM

We always have stayed at AS Music during the same week that the Pop Warner and cheerleader groups are there. The biggest problem was the piggy adults who smoked in and in front of No Smoking rooms, threw their beer cans and butts in the bushes and talked loudly outside of rooms instead of visiting inside--maybe because they couldn't stand to not smoke for a few minutes. The kids were mostly okay, but then I am a Youth Services librarian so maybe I'm just used to them. I was elbowed out of the way once by a group of line-jumping cheer girls at the opening at MGM, but I figured it was excitment, and it has happened to me at places outside of WDW. We tend to drive to most parks so I cannot speak about the busses, but I would avoid the food court during prime breakfast hours and the pool late unless you like crowds. But we really haven't had anything that would keep us away from ASM just because of the kids. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/zread.gif[/img]

**HiddenMickey** · 05-02-2006, 01:11 PM

If you happen to stay at any resort when there is a group of boisterous kids in residence, it is best to ask for an upper floor room facing away from any courtyards or pools if you want peace and quiet (this is actually what I ask for anyway [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ).

**apk** · 05-02-2006, 03:36 PM

I am going to WDW in May and Sep/Oct - considered seriously a value resort but decided against it for these exact reasons, I get frequent migraines and if I'm back at the hotel to rest and medicate, I certainly didn't want to battle that kind of noise! I love PORFQ and POR for this very reason, it has to be the quietest resorts on property!

vsonnier · 05-02-2006, 04:35 PM

I can think of no worse thing!

figmentintime · 05-03-2006, 08:36 AM

I just wanted to add to this discussion, as I JUST got back from ASM with our marching band! I would like to say that it matters A LOT if there is adult supervison! We all took turns all night, walking our halls. We discussed appropriate and considerate behavoir BEFORE we took 90 kids down there! We were respectful to folks on the buses, and if an adult caught a student being rude, pushing, or causing problems, they were whisked away to spend the rest of the day "stuck" with an adult chaperoen! (The ULTIMATE horror!!) I saw a TON of students NOT supervised, and I think Disney should address that. I just wanted to add that not ALL groups are horrid, and ultimately, the adults responsible for the kids need to step up and take the flack! (We averaged about 2 hours of sleep a day, but we knew what we were getting into before we left. THis was NOT a pleasure trip, we were working!) Maybe they should fine the groups that casue all this trouble!

coastgirl · 05-03-2006, 10:02 AM

Just wanted to say, good on you for taking care of your kids so well. I used to teach and only chaperoned a trip like that once (just a few kids to a small drama festival), and it is a LOT of work to do it well. It would be great if all groups and kids were held responsible, I agree. Personally I would rather be in a quieter spot when I vacation with my young children, but I know when they are older I will kiss the feet of people like you who give our kids these valuable--and fun--experiences.

Editing to add...that one trip, it was more protecting the kids from the adults than the other way around. We shared our hotel with a ladies' (and I use the term lightly) bowling team, who knew there were young teens there, and persisted in their drunken behaviour, including MOONING my kids. I was the one calling the front desk looking for order! Sometimes it's not the kids who need to mind their p's and q's!

luvmygrlz · 05-03-2006, 11:04 AM

Our family was at WDW this past Dec, during Pop Warner time. Luckily there we no groups at WL, but we did encounter MANY unsupervised groups of cheerleaders in the park who were quite obnoxious and extremely rude. The little football player groups always seemed to have enough supervision. The cheerleaders were loud, pushy and running all over the place. It made for an unenjoyable experience more than once.
I am an elementary teacher and quite tolerant of noise, silliness, excitement, etc. But these girls were way out of bound and usually seen with little or no supervion.
I couldn't imagine staying at a resort with loud obnoxious children! I would go totally crazy.

We are planning on staying in a value in August, and I'll be sure to ask if there are any large groups staying there.

merrymom · 05-03-2006, 04:05 PM

I agree that you cannot catagorize all these groups as horrid, but what IS horrid to me is the lack of supervision I witnessed in the parks this past December (cheerleaders and football players). If parents of these kids could have seen the goings-on! All I kept saying to DH was, "Where are the chaperones?"; and DH insists he will NEVER allow any of our kids to go on such a trip, EVER! As a WDW guest, I was merely annoyed at the loud, boisterous, sometimes rude behavior. As a parent, I was concerned for the safety of any teenager so poorly supervised.

We were lucky in that we stayed at a DVC resort. My sister and her family were at ASMu and could not get a decent night's sleep: they were a wreck! DBIL swore (I mean REALLY swore!) that he would never stay at a value resort ever again.

I feel that, while many teens are responsible and generally considerate of others, the temptation to go along with the crowd and behave badly is strong enough without giving them an opportunity to go wild because of lack of proper supervision.

Only trouble is: there is no way of knowing if the group of kids that will be staying down the hall from you will be properly supervised or not.

MAria R · 05-03-2006, 05:56 PM

I watched that show and really got in to it. Which is kind of sad to admit in its own right. But I remember thinking the same thing Robin did during the last 2 shows. They were all over that resort and it made me think of posts where people have complained of that same thing. Maybe this is mean but it made me chuckle alittle and than a felt bad for the people vacationing who probable had no clue they would be invading by cheerleaders.

forever_amber · 05-03-2006, 08:01 PM

Been there... our 1st trip we stayed at All Star Music during the national High School Cheerleading thing... my older Daughter LOVED it Me not so much but they did make my 5 year olds life by teaching her cheers and braiding her hair.

krisk11 · 05-04-2006, 10:48 AM

You are definately right that it's all in the supervision. We go away for sporting events alot and most parents just let their kids run rampid in the hotels and I look like a warden because the rules when away are the same as when we are at home. It takes a while after dd has hung out with the group of kids to real her back in sometimes from the flip attitude she gets.

SharonK0527 · 05-04-2006, 11:20 AM

Disney couldn't pay me to stay at one of these resorts when the Cheerleaders are there. My daughter is still young so I haven't had to be a parent to a teenager yet. I have absolutely no patience for kids who run rampant like that. The rude behaviors and flip attitudes of the teenagers I have seen makes me dread the day my daughter goes to high school. I am trying so hard to raise her right but sometimes the temptation to go along with the crowd is too much at that age. Usually when I see older kids exhibiting bad behavior in front of my daughter, I use them as an example to show her how NOT to behave [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

TinkerBelz · 05-05-2006, 12:45 AM

Speaking of this. A postal worker took her two twin daughters (ages 9) to this cheerleader competition. She told me they were at WDW for 4 days and only got to ONE park - MGM. That was it. They brought all their own food and only ate pizza (she thought that was eating Disney food). I told her I needed to plan a trip for her and her girls where they could actually enjoy it.

Her comments about Disney world. "It was OK". WHAT??? As far as I was concerned she really didn't go to WDW. She finally agreed and said the way I describe it is TOTALLY different that what she experienced! Really? LOL

krisk11 · 05-05-2006, 11:02 AM

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My daughter is still young so I haven't had to be a parent to a teenager yet. I have absolutely no patience for kids who run rampant like that. The rude behaviors and flip attitudes of the teenagers I have seen makes me dread the day my daughter goes to high school. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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I hate to break it to you but the attitude usually starts coming home from school long before high school. My dd is in 5th grade and although normally she is really good some times she is unbearable. I can only imagine what her classmates act like.

LuvMinnie · 05-07-2006, 02:52 AM

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I just wanted to add to this discussion, as I JUST got back from ASM with our marching band! I would like to say that it matters A LOT if there is adult supervison! We all took turns all night, walking our halls. We discussed appropriate and considerate behavoir BEFORE we took 90 kids down there! We were respectful to folks on the buses, and if an adult caught a student being rude, pushing, or causing problems, they were whisked away to spend the rest of the day "stuck" with an adult chaperoen! (The ULTIMATE horror!!) I saw a TON of students NOT supervised, and I think Disney should address that. I just wanted to add that not ALL groups are horrid, and ultimately, the adults responsible for the kids need to step up and take the flack! (We averaged about 2 hours of sleep a day, but we knew what we were getting into before we left. THis was NOT a pleasure trip, we were working!) Maybe they should fine the groups that casue all this trouble!

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[img]/ubb/images/graemlins/yeahthat.gif[/img] AMEN!!!! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/angel.gif[/img]
AND God Bless You! My son has taken many Band trips & had a wonderful time, but weeks before they leave town meetings are held with students & parents about what is expected & what WILL happen if appropriate behavior is not demonstrated. These cheerleaders (cute/loud as they are) are not the problem, they are excited kids...it's the lack of adults doing their jobs. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

I know what you mean about lack of sleep...I chaperoned a New York City trip with 50 8th grades & we also walked with halls for 3 nights. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/snore.gif[/img]