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Wow, what a fun adventure! I can't imagine living in the tunnels. Living there.

We start school Sept. 1. Just to throw it in there. It is strange how different school starting dates are all over the country!
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Wow, what a fun adventure! I can't imagine living in the tunnels. Living there.
neither can I, and some of them lived in there for year after year as well...

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It is weird. As an outsider, I always feel as if the States aren't quite one country, although I know of course you all are, but by that I mean it's amazing how much everything varies from state to state. A lot of the things that are different with you guys are the same across the country here you see.
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What an interesting tour. It is incredible to think that people lived in the tunnels for the rest of the war.
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Isn't it just? I find it absolutely amazing.
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Some great plans for your trip and seems everything has pretty much come together! Just don't know why DL is so prehistoric for their guests to plan their trips by not allowing ADRs to be booked that far in advance! Just aggravating I'm sure! Glad you got your cruise docs and they certainly look great!

I love your garden as it looks like you've put a lot of work into it! Amazing little day trip with the Ramsay Tunnels. Quite fascinated how much of this has been preserved!
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It is irritating and certainly very different after what WDW have done now. However, I can understand it from Disney's point of view, given that the majority of guests are local. I seem to remember from somewhere that 80% of visitors are local and only 20% are out of state, whereas in Florida, the figures are reversed and 20% of visitors are local and 80% are out of state. How true that is, I don't know, but that's what I've heard anyway...

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The photo of the sailboat looks so peaceful and calming. The tunnels are fascinating and the displays are very well done. Can't wait to see what you all find further in.
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More to come tomorrow - I think you'll find it even more amazing.
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We don't start school until September 8. I think we're one of the last holdouts to start the day after Labor Day. The county next to us starts the week before. We just need to go three more years until DD graduates (I like the late start, but they keep talking about moving it up).
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Enjoy Toontown as it's been rumored it's going to make way for Star Wars land. I had seen a map that laid it out, but of course now I can't find it!

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Wow, that is late to go back for the States... I know places that go back as early as mid August, so I find it amazing that dates can vary so much from one state to another.
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Pre-trip report – part twelve: a real “wow” moment

Now when you last left me, we were exploring Ramsgate tunnels, which were used as air-raid shelters during the Second World War. At this point, we’d only so far seen the tunnels that the trains used to run along, but then we all stood at this entrance…



… and Adrian promised us a “wow” moment when he flipped the lights on, and he wasn’t kidding. Unfortunately, I couldn’t get a photo of it as he did it, as I wasn’t at the front, but to give you an idea, here are some shots of inside those tunnels:



We walked a little way, then saw some bunk beds out, so that you got an idea of how people lived. Almost opposite those was a latrine in a little alcove built out of the chalk, and apparently they’d have a roller blind in front of the restrooms, and those in the bunk beds could pull a curtain across, as they always had to have lighting on. We did a test later, when we all turned off our lanterns to see how dark it was (some of the tunnels had lighting, but in other parts we had to use the handheld lanterns we’d been given) and literally that was the definition of pitch black. You know how normally you turn the lights out, and your eyes gradually acclimatise to the dark? Well, not down here, as there is literally no light at all. It was a very spooky experience. Anyway, as Adrian said, you couldn’t turn the lights off down here, as no-one would be able to move around at all, hence the curtains over the bunk beds.

We then headed to one of the 14 entrances that they had around the town, so that residents were never too far from an entrance, and could easily get into the tunnel system. This is from halfway up the first set of steps…



We then walked up to the top of this set of steps, which then dog legged and had a right angle turn in it. Adrian explained that this was in case a bomb exploded in one of the entrances, then the blast wouldn’t go straight down into the tunnels. Here’s the view up to the top, where the entrance once would’ve been…



Notice the graffiti? This wasn’t from the days of the Second World War, as the inhabitants would’ve treated it like home. sadly this was from the intervening period, where people, generally youngsters would’ve got into the tunnel system, and carved their names into the walls to mark the achievement. Part of me was very sad to see this, although part of me also thought this is part of history as well, however unpleasant it is to look at.

We made our way back down the steps…



We were escorted further along the original tunnel, and were shown a section where they’re currently working to clear it, so that future visitors can see more of the place. I hope they’re successful, as I’d love to go back and see more of it.



A little further down, we were shown this, which was beneath a shop. We were told the story of a guy who, during an air-raid stayed in his shop above, as he still had means to cook. It was a Sunday, and everyone took their Sunday roasts round to him to cook, then the air-raid started, and they assumed that he’d headed for the shelter. he stayed up there the whole time, cooking away, was absolutely fine, and when the all-clear came, he brought their lunches down. It was a neat story!




With that, we made our way back to the original railway tunnel, and saw replicas of how people would have lived in those air-raid tunnels during World War Two. It was a stark reminder of the hardships they went through…



With that, our tour was over, and we had a quick browse through the exhibition on Operation Dynamo, also known as the D-Day landings that I’m sure you guys are familiar with. A lot of the ships left from Ramsgate, which is why it’s appropriate to have the exhibition here. To give you an idea…


This is the memorial that they unveiled back in 2000 at Ramsgate Harbour. I was a journalist then and I covered the ceremony, which was attended by the famous World War Two singer Dame Vera Lynn

This gives you an idea of what Ramsgate Harbour would have looked like when the Little Ships sailed for Dunkirk


With that, we headed outside, and the beach was a bit busier now:



On the way over to our friend’s, we stopped off at a garden centre that’s home to various other shops, and there we both managed to get a pair of walking boots each at a massively reduced price. I think mine were supposed to be £120 ($186), and I got them for £55 ($85), and Mark got a similar deal – bargain! Now those are definitely going to be coming to Alaska with us…

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The memorial at Ramsgate is beautiful. Vera Lynn!! I read that name and immediately heard "We'll Meet Again" and "The White Cliffs of Dover" in my head. She's wonderful!
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