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I have to agree with you on the DDP as for us it has never been cost effect either. FABs are even included in the DDP, so those will be extra one way or the other. In fact, we have bought the TiW card for several years now because we do get a discount on FABs with it.
Yes - we have found that for us the DDP is a lot of waste - as you can see in my TR, we do a lot of sharing and snacking, and Scott and I enjoyed our FAB's, which are not included in the DDP, so we have been using the TIW for the last few years and we have saved each time!
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We didn't use the DP on our last trip in April and instead used tables in wonderland. We really liked not having the plan. We ate at more TS restaurants than the plan would have accommodated and sometimes we had snacks for lunches. We were about $500 under the cost of the DP, but again, that was with I think 5 extra TS meals. We also shared meals, had appetizers, my DD loves soup as a meal etc. We just like to be able to eat what we wanted and not feel like we had to get the most expensive thing on the menu to "get our money's worth".
I do wish my DH would be excited about plans for a trip. We have an agreement, he will go and have fun, but he doesn't plan anything.
DDP is a waste for us too. Also, the kids barely tolerate the time away from the parks that one table service meal takes. They would rather be on rides most times.
Wellll, at least Arben is interested in "helping" you plan the trip
Many people love the dining plan, but haven't crunched the numbers. And, as you say, the eating habits of the kids can make big difference.
I hope he's as interested in "helping" when it's time to pack.
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Originally Posted by Cam22
I have to agree with you on the DDP as for us it has never been cost effect either. FABs are even included in the DDP, so those will be extra one way or the other. In fact, we have bought the TiW card for several years now because we do get a discount on FABs with it.
Unless I get it free, I think I will not be using the DDP for the time being. Maybe when the kids are older...
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Yes - we have found that for us the DDP is a lot of waste - as you can see in my TR, we do a lot of sharing and snacking, and Scott and I enjoyed our FAB's, which are not included in the DDP, so we have been using the TIW for the last few years and we have saved each time!
I know we'll do some sharing and plenty of snacking.
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We didn't use the DP on our last trip in April and instead used tables in wonderland. We really liked not having the plan. We ate at more TS restaurants than the plan would have accommodated and sometimes we had snacks for lunches. We were about $500 under the cost of the DP, but again, that was with I think 5 extra TS meals. We also shared meals, had appetizers, my DD loves soup as a meal etc. We just like to be able to eat what we wanted and not feel like we had to get the most expensive thing on the menu to "get our money's worth".
I do wish my DH would be excited about plans for a trip. We have an agreement, he will go and have fun, but he doesn't plan anything.
That's the point! When you're on the DDP, you're looking at the menu for the most expensive item and not really what you want. You wouldn't want to spend a TS credit on a burger.
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I agree about the DDP - not something for me - unless they bring it back for free - then sign me up.
I'm like 2 months behind you in my planning as my ADR time is coming up in like 2 weeks.
my niece and nephew have the same birthday but 2 years apart.
Exactly! Free is the only way I'll do it.
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I'm glad you crunched the numbers and convinced your DH that the DDP is not for your family!
Yes, I hope I don't have to crunch numbers again. I hope he understood this time around.
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The DDP isn't for us either! DS also eats like a bird and is considered an adult! How I miss all those trips when he was free!
Tell me about it. I remember our first trip when Abniel was free. Oh, the good old days...
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DDP is a waste for us too. Also, the kids barely tolerate the time away from the parks that one table service meal takes. They would rather be on rides most times.
My kids enjoy the sit down meals. And are pretty excited to find out which ones I have planned this time. They do know a couple of them but not all.
The more I read about Spirit Airlines, the more I hate them. You do get cheap flights but you suffer in other areas.
First, if you want assigned seats, you pay for them. Not that big of a deal. I did it in order to sit with my family. It's no different from EBCI @ SW.
Then you have to pay $30 a bag. OK, still not the worse. I'm planning on taking only three large suitcases which I planned to stuff silly. Until I read on their site that the weight limit is 40lbs. Really, 40lbs? That's the weight of a 4 year old. Guess I'll be taking less clothes and doing more laundry.
Then I find out they don't participate in Disney's RAC. Why? Because they're cheap and don't want to pay Disney for this. This is not really a big problem. I'm still able to use DME. The only thing is I can't check in for my flight at the resort and I have to take my luggage with me to the airport. I sent Disney an email yesterday, asking them if I had to collect my own luggage when I arrive in Orlando or will DME do it for me and deliver it to my room. Well I got a nice and informative response, detailing all the facts about RAC. Yeah, not really what I was asking. So, if anyone knows the answer to this, please let me know. I wouldn't want to arrive at AKV and then realize I was supposed to get my own luggage.
But here comes the best one. The one that has me fuming. Spirit charges $10 for each boarding pass printed at the airport. What the heck! I really had no idea about this. Not sure if other airlines do this also. I can easily check in for my flight and print my boarding passes at home for my flight to Orlando. But for my flight back home... I read somewhere that Concierge will print out your boarding passes. Again, not sure about this. Can someone confirm?
Lesson learned... I'd rather pay a bit more and have more amenities and less headaches.
Sorry can't really help about the luggage question, but when we did the DME, our boarding passes were printed and put on our door overnight.......although again not sure if that works with this airline??? Sorry not much help
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Sorry can't really help about the luggage question, but when we did the DME, our boarding passes were printed and put on our door overnight.......although again not sure if that works with this airline??? Sorry not much help
Since Spirit is not a RAC participating airline, I won't automatically get my boarding passes printed and on my door.
I hear you on all of the extra charges. I was surprised when booking a flight from California on American Airlines, and saw the extra fees to pick out an aisle seat, a window seat, etc.
My understanding is that you won't have to pick up your bags from Spirit on arrival (as long as they are tagged with DME) - it's only on the way back to the airport that you have to lug them. But, we haven't flown them - yet.
Sharon is correct. You will not have to collect your bags on arrival. The tags will be mailed to you if you are taking advantage of DME.
I would check with concierge because I think they can print your boarding passes for you at the desk.
The only thing you will not be able to do is check your bags at the resort the day of departure. You will have to take them with you and check them at the airport.
Yes, you can ask the concierge to print your boarding passes for you. I think that is ridiculous that the airline charges you to pay if you print them at the airport. Are they also one of the airlines that charge you for carryons too?
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