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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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08-21-2005, 08:03 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 8,784
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I have a cooking question-- do you rinse chicken before cooking?
I just read that the USDA now recommends that you do not rinse chicken because of spreading the bacteria. My mom always told me to rinse chicken. I rarely cook chicken because (I don't know why)-- it just grosses me out, but I was thinking about making something with chicken tonight. Should I rinse or not-- now I'm confused. Thanks!!
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08-21-2005, 09:01 AM
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Community Rank: Adventurer
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: cape cod
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Re: I have a cooking question-- do you rinse chicken before cooking?
i have always rinsed whole chickens (and turkeys) and things have always been fine!
do what you're used to doing and don't let them alarm you.
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08-21-2005, 09:04 AM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Waxahachie, Texas
Posts: 2,147
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Re: I have a cooking question-- do you rinse chicken before cooking?
I wonder how they determined that it spreads bacteria. My thought is, if you choose to rinse the chicken isn’t the bacteria going down the drain??? I say rinse that little bird!!!!!!!!!
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08-21-2005, 10:49 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,478
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Re: I have a cooking question-- do you rinse chicken before cooking?
I'm another one who doesn't cook chicken all that often, and handling chicken always grosses me out too. I've always washed chicken and that was always part of the gross-me-out factor. I have to admit - I like the idea of just picking it up with my tongs and tossing it in the pan/grill/crockpot whatever.
I just did a quick search to find out what the deal is - and here is what I found out:
"Historically, we equate washing with cleanliness. Why then should raw meat and poultry not be rinsed? The reason lies in minimizing the spread of bacteria. Bacteria present on the surface of meat or poultry are easily destroyed by cooking, but bacteria spread to other surfaces and foods during the rinsing process may not receive the needed heat treatment. According to USDA's Meat and Poultry hotline, bacteria from the rinsed meat is easily spread to the sink, faucet, your hands, dish clothes, and anything you touch or that comes in contact with the raw meat.
Reasearch also suggests that rinsing is not an effective way to remove bacteria. Scientists at the University of Georgia found that rinsing inoculated chicken in water did not remove all contamination, even after 30 rinse treatments."
Hope this helps.
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08-21-2005, 10:55 AM
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But why is the rum gone?
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Needville, Texas
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 12,286
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Re: I have a cooking question-- do you rinse chicken before cooking?
I always rinse chicken and I paper towels when cleaning the mess up so I don't have the bacteria on my dish towels.
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08-21-2005, 11:11 AM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Macon, GA
Posts: 2,402
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Re: I have a cooking question-- do you rinse chicken before cooking?
rinse, then clean sink
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08-21-2005, 12:11 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: second star to the right
Posts: 13,308
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Re: I have a cooking question-- do you rinse chicken before cooking?
I never rinse or even touch it. I just grab it with the tongs or other instrument and throw it (literally) into the pan.
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08-21-2005, 12:21 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Near a Tower of Terror at the moment...
Posts: 13,884
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Re: I have a cooking question-- do you rinse chicken before cooking?
It's a miracle I survived to adulthood with my mother's food-handling techniques The last time I was there, I even got up the nerve to finally comment on it, "You don't much buy into food-handling safety, do you?" Her response: "It hasn't killed us, has it?"
That said, I've never rinsed a chicken in my life and I cook it a LOT. Even when we have pork, DDs call it "chicken" I don't have any problem handling it (I skin pieces or rub on spices), but I never rinse it, it goes straight from the package into the pan, prepared, then my hands go straight to the sink with hot water and soap and paper towels.
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08-21-2005, 12:25 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 8,784
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Re: I have a cooking question-- do you rinse chicken before cooking?
Thanks everyone!!! I googled rinsing chicken, and found that the government is issuing new guidelines telling people not to rinse poultry. Perdue's website also said not to rinse. This actually makes it alot easier for me (I never make whole chickens, just pieces (breast) Because I hate rinsing it, and then I always spend so much time cleaning the sink after (ever since having kids I've become a bit of a germaphobe). Now that I can just put it into the oven or crockpot, actually makes it more appealing to me. Thanks everyone!!!!!!
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08-21-2005, 01:55 PM
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Facebook Addict
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Philadelphia
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 39,682
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Re: I have a cooking question-- do you rinse chicken before cooking?
I never rinse chicken, whole or parts, just put them in the pan/pot and then rinse my hands.
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08-21-2005, 02:57 PM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 2,183
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Re: I have a cooking question-- do you rinse chicken before cooking?
I have never rinsed them either. Throw them in the pan or on the grill.
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08-21-2005, 03:49 PM
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Faith, Trust, Pixie Dust
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Connecticut
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 34,171
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Re: I have a cooking question-- do you rinse chicken before cooking?
I always rinse and immediately wash out the sink with antibacterial soap or wipes.
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08-21-2005, 10:07 PM
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Community Rank: Trekker
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Killeen, TEXAS
Posts: 1,135
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Re: I have a cooking question-- do you rinse chicken before cooking?
I rinse my chicken before I cook it
The one thing is to wash all of your utensils you use to prepare the raw chicken like knives & cuttingboards because you can cross-contaminate stuff if you use the same utensils/surfacing as the raw chicken!
Example: You cut the raw chicken for stir fry or something and then use that same knife on the lettuce THAT's not good
I learned a lot about chicken working at KFC for 2yrs
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08-21-2005, 10:57 PM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: MD
Posts: 2,038
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Re: I have a cooking question-- do you rinse chicken before cooking?
Wow.....glad you asked this question! You have just saved me alot of time, paper towels and soap. Thanks!
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08-22-2005, 06:46 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Michigan's Upper Peninsula
Posts: 27,691
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Re: I have a cooking question-- do you rinse chicken before cooking?
I have never rinsed chicken
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