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There are other changes as well.
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We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
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If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
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09-29-2004, 11:22 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Kissimmee, FL
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 10,481
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Trails End
I will be at WDW for Christmas and I would like to venture over to Fort Wilderness for a little while. I am planning on doing a carriage ride or a "sleigh" ride for my sister and mom as a Christmas present. We will probably want to grab something to eat in the area I was thinking Trails End might be a good option. I have seen the menu on AllEarsNet but still have a question. Is the Barbeque all smoked? My sister hates "smoked" food but She likes fried chicken so I am sure that is what she would get if the meat is all smoked. Also what is on the salad bar? My mom is diabetic and I think she would probably go for the soup/salad option.
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09-29-2004, 11:40 AM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Colonia, NJ
Concierge Level: 2
Posts: 2,517
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Re: Trails End
Hi Robin! I really don't remember if it was all smoked but I do know we had a great meal there! The chicken was great as well as the peel and eat shrimp and all the sides. Yummy!  Also the service was great - Gary was our server and he was fantastic!!!
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09-29-2004, 02:23 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Fort Smith, Arkansas
Posts: 10,721
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Re: Trails End
When we went, the meats weren't all smoked. The chicken was great and as for the salad bar, it wasn't huge but had a lot of basics for a good salad- as well as some good sides too- like cole slaw, pasta salad, etc.
I think it's hands down one of the best deals at WDW in terms of dining- I am sure everyone will find something they like!
Have a great trip!
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09-29-2004, 03:23 PM
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Community Rank: Adventurer 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 974
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Re: Trails End
Honestly, I don't remember. It seems like everytime I go the menu is slightly different. You can always run in and check what's on the bar (or ask a CM) before you eat, if you want! The food is VERY good. I have never been disappointed with the food there. We eat there at least once every trip because we stay at FtW.
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09-29-2004, 04:44 PM
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Community Rank: Traveler 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Crown Point, IN USA
Posts: 431
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Re: Trails End
We were there last year..it is a good deal...but too hard to hand for me my 4 yr old had just about had it...long bus ride and long wait for dinner and you are stuck not as easy to get back as say a regular disney resort...
just my 2 cents...let me know if you have any other questions..
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09-29-2004, 10:30 PM
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Community Rank: Adventurer
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 974
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Re: Trails End
I think the "harder to get back than a regular Disney resort" really depends on where you're staying. With a bus running directly to Wilderness Lodge and the TTC, boats running to Wilderness Lodge, the Contemporary and Magic Kingdom, plus buses directly to each park (if they're still open) and DTD, it really should be EASIER than resorts that only have buses or are farther from any of the parks. If you're staying at the All-Stars or AKL, well, yeah, it might take a while to get back. If you're staying at Wilderness Lodge it will take 5 minutes once you're on the bus. (And it is a regular Disney resort! It's been there since the beginning!  I think I know what you meant, though.)
We did have a 30-40 minute wait for dinner at Trails End last December, but we didn't have a PS either, and there were a LOT more people around than usual - carriage rides, movie, campfire, special event, who knows? They had pulled one of the big ferries (TTC to MK ferries!) up to the FtW dock! |
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09-30-2004, 09:52 AM
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Community Rank: Legend 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Edmonton, KY
Concierge Level: 7
Posts: 17,823
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Re: Trails End
The ribs are a dry rub bbq. But I don't know if that means they're smoked. I do know they're aren't the way I cook ribs, and I do not care for them at all. BUT, aside from that, Trails End is one of my absolute favorite places to eat! That chicken is yum yum yum!!
We've always timed our meals with their opening times, so we've never waited. Weird, I know, but it just worked out that way.
When we just go visit(not staying at FTW), we don't find it hard at all to get back to our resort. just catch a boat to the MK and bus from there. Or boat to the Contemporary, or WL. I do love that mode of travel. Those resorts look awesome from the water.
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09-30-2004, 11:15 AM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Colonia, NJ
Concierge Level: 2
Posts: 2,517
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Re: Trails End
We also had a 35-40 minute wait for Trails End - it was our first night and I had no clue what time we would arrive at WDW (we drove) so I didn't make any dinner plans. We got there during a busy time but we "cart shopped" and walked around. But it was definitely worth the wait - great price, great food and great service - nice start to our Disney trip! Oh, and we walked over from the WL ("about a mile as the crow flies" LOL) and took a bus back. Unfortunately, you can't make a PS for this restaurant.
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09-30-2004, 03:38 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Kissimmee, FL
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 10,481
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Re: Trails End
I have to make reservations for the carriage ride so I am going to time it so we can eat at Trails end before the ride, maybe when the first open for dinner. I am very much looking forward to seeing Fort Wilderness at Christmastime! Thanks for everyone's imput I think we should enjoy the meal!
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09-30-2004, 04:10 PM
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Community Rank: Wayfarer 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Chicago
Posts: 155
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Re: Trails End
We must have been there on an off night because the chicken and ribs tasted like they were cooked the day before. We walked from the Wilderness Lodge. The walk was a good 15 minutes but very pretty and we saw a deer.
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10-01-2004, 08:13 PM
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Community Rank: Trekker 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: NY (just north of NYC)
Posts: 1,269
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Re: Trails End
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I have to make reservations for the carriage ride so I am going to time it so we can eat at Trails end before the ride, maybe when the first open for dinner. I am very much looking forward to seeing Fort Wilderness at Christmastime! Thanks for everyone's imput I think we should enjoy the meal!
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As a happy camper and lover of FtW, I know you will enjoy Trails End. Usually there are 2 soups (usually chili as one)salad, fruit, peel and eat shrimp, fried chicken, great mashed potatoes, vegetables, sometimes an "exotic" dish like buffalo meat or venison stew. Mac and cheese and pizza for the kids and great desserts (bread pudding, apple cobbler, strawberry shortcake) depending on the chef's choice.
FtW is awesome at Christmas. Some of the campers must be related to the Osbournes since they do some really elaborate Christmas light displays and site decorations.
You will fall in love with it!
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10-02-2004, 06:27 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Way down south
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 20,411
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Re: Trails End
I think there is enough variety at this buffet to please everyone! We've been several times and never waited to be seated. I asked about PS and Trail's End doesn't take them.
Another travel option would be to take the boat from the MK over the Ft. W, it is a short walk to Trail's End from the dock.
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