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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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07-29-2004, 08:54 AM
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Community Rank: Scout
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Northern Ohio
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The Mailman Brought Need of Pixie Dust
I really need some Pixie Dust!! The mailman delivered an invitation for DH's nephew's birthday party. It is in 2 weeks. The problem is my BIL. He is very bossy to my DSs. Even when they are not doing anything wrong he is after them. I have told him countless times "They are fine, I'm watching them, Don't worry about them". My children are not angels but they are good kids. Yesterday while running errands we stopped to eat at a restaurant and I had an elderly couple come over and tell me how well behaved they are. We were just at a party (mostly adults) and 2 people commented to me on how polite and well behaved DSs are. I don't know what BIL's problem is but I am reaching the end of my rope with him. We had company come and stay with us over July 4th and DH's cousin asked me why BIL treats our DSs that way so it was even obvious even to them (I had not said anything). Until DS#1 came along BIL was the "baby" of the family and I think his maturity level is so low he is still jealous of being unseated.
FIL is ill and things have been rough. MIL needs help. DH and Nice-BIL have been taking turns shoveling snow, mowing lawn, fixing things around the house (they are selling and building a ranch where maintenance is included), helping sort through stuff, sitting with FIL so MIL can get out,etc.... Mean BIL WHO DOES NOT WORK has done nothing, zero, zip. I am not exagerating. Nothing. DH works full-time and does consulting on the side to support our/my WDW fix. I am doing our yardwork so DH doesn't have to, so he has more time for MIL.
Mean BIL and his wife went to WDW for their honeymoon. When they got back all they did was complain about the coffee and the children "all over the place". Hello?? You went to WDW and there were children there??? That is like going to Paris and complaining there are French people there!!! Any parent will tell you that although vacations are fun they can be very stressful. The kids are revved up, off their ususal schedules, food is different, it is hard to adjust to sleeping in a hotel, etc... Things are going to happen, that doesn't mean the children have rotten parents, it means they are children not robots!!! I know there are parents who are not great (such as trying to push in line during character meets), but you have got to expect kids to act like kids. When we are at WDW we stay for 7-10 days, during that time I can guarantee each DS will have at least one meltdown (there is something wrong with a child who can go that long without some type of issue). I'm sorry if you're in the vicinty when it happens, its not pleasant for us either. Get over it.
BIL also tries to tell me how to parent, he has been doing this since my DS#1 was born, even though he only became a parent a year ago. DS#1 has some problems. BIL tries to "help" constantly with suggestions even when I tell him the doctors do not reccommend what he is saying. Gee, who am I going to listen to the-$400-per-hour specialist or my unemployed-because-he-is-to-lazy-to-work-with-a-masters-degree BIL?
Thank you for letting me vent, rant, and rave. I'm usually mild mannered but Mean BIL really pushes my buttons. I am just grateful Mean BIL lives a 2 hour drive away, unlike every other member of our families. He and his wife moved there because they don't like to be around families "they expect things from you, like help and coming to family dinners, etc..". They have never showed up for any f DSs' birthday parties. Being the bigger person, and feeling bad for DH's nephew who has parents like this, I will go. Besides someone will have to give MIL and FIl a ride...
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07-29-2004, 09:01 AM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Berwick, PA
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Re: The Mailman Brought Need of Pixie Dust
Cheryl,
A dose just for you!!(and BIL)
Paula º0º
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07-29-2004, 09:03 AM
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Community Rank: Scout
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Texas
Posts: 4,748
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Re: The Mailman Brought Need of Pixie Dust
Sending a ton of your way! It's tough when you have a hard time getting along with family! Hopefully DBIL will learn to shut his mouth and let you raise your kids!
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07-29-2004, 09:32 AM
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The Original BagMan
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Location: Shalimar, FL
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Re: The Mailman Brought Need of Pixie Dust
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07-29-2004, 09:36 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Chapel Hill, NC USA
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Re: The Mailman Brought Need of Pixie Dust
Wow, what a situation. I hope the party turns out all right.
One thing I think I'd do is actually tell your Mean BIL to not talk to your kids unless he can use positive language with them. Tell him why. Tell him how others perceive his interaction with them, and how it makes your children (and you) feel. If it would be better coming from your husband, let him do it. I hope you've told your children how proud you are of them and let them know that you don't agree with how your BIL is around them.
Best wishes and pixie dust! -HiddenMickey
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07-29-2004, 09:54 AM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Massachusetts
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Re: The Mailman Brought Need of Pixie Dust
I wholeheartedly agree with Hidden Mickey. I would straight out tell him not to speak to your kids. If your DH would be a little calmer with this discussion then have him do it but definitely do it. My DS has a bunch of physical and medical issues. There are a few people in our circle who think they know better than the doctors or they think they can correct DS's behavior. I am also normally mild mannered but not when it comes to my kid. I am wishing you a bunch of for this. It doesnt sound like an easy one.
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07-29-2004, 10:05 AM
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Wishing I was at WDW!
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Southwestern Florida, USA
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Re: The Mailman Brought Need of Pixie Dust
and prayers go out to you! I agree that either you or your hubby (or maybe both of you) should sit down with your BIL and tell him how uncomfortable it is to be around him, and tell him that your children are exactly that- YOUR children, and that you will and can take care of them. It is wonderful how you and your hubby are helping out his parents - and I think it is great that you can see the need to be there for your nephew. I hope that some resolution can take place - especially for your little girls! Take care and good luck!
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07-29-2004, 10:08 AM
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Wishing I was at WDW!
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Southwestern Florida, USA
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Re: The Mailman Brought Need of Pixie Dust
I am so sorry - after I re-read my post I realized that I mentioned girls instead of boys! I am so sorry! Anyway - I would say the same - just protect those little boys - they are God's gifts to you!
Again - sorry!
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07-29-2004, 11:01 AM
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Faith, Trust, Pixie Dust
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Connecticut
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Re: The Mailman Brought Need of Pixie Dust
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07-29-2004, 11:25 AM
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Community Rank: Scout
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Northern Ohio
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Re: The Mailman Brought Need of Pixie Dust
Thank you everyone for all of the pixie dust. I think it worked. DH called from work and told me he spoke with NICE BIL and he and his wife will give MIL and FIL a ride home from the party. This means we will not have to stay while MIL gets her quota of hugs from nephew (who is very cute). DH said he knows his brother won't refrain from being a jerk and this way we can leave when I've had enough I am so relieved
I have tried to politely and firmly tell Mean BIL what I think of how he treats my DSs, but it goes in one ear and out another. I even mentioned to MIL a few months ago hoping she would say something to him but she started to get sad about Mean BIL being such a slug and so I dropped it. I would push DH to say something but I don't think it would do any good. DH makes his feelings known to his brother about what a deadbeat he is with no reaction. I will just try to keep DSs away from BIL until at least the cake is cut and presents opened.
Thank you again my Disney friends
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07-29-2004, 11:33 AM
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Community Rank: Scout
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Northern Ohio
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Re: The Mailman Brought Need of Pixie Dust
Dear Hidden Mickey,
Thank you for reminding me to mention to my DSs it is not their fault. During our last family party I ended up walking DSs home (a few blocks) because I couldn't take anymore. On the way DS#2 said "I am sorry we are so bad" I was torn between wanting to cry and wanting to go back and punch Mean BIL in the nose. I immediately reassured DSs it wasn't them it was Mean BIL. DS#1 said "He is not my family, family doesn't treat each other that way" I think it is sad that an 8 year old with his problems has more insight than a 30 yr old man.
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07-29-2004, 11:40 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Chapel Hill, NC USA
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Re: The Mailman Brought Need of Pixie Dust
I am so happy that you will have the freedom to leave if need be! {{{Hugs}}}!
-HiddenMickey
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07-29-2004, 12:24 PM
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RED SOX NATION!!
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Connecticut
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Re: The Mailman Brought Need of Pixie Dust
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07-29-2004, 12:32 PM
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Community Rank: Globetrotter
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: California
Posts: 3,878
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Re: The Mailman Brought Need of Pixie Dust
You said you have tried to be polite and nice about this matter. And alot of others have said to sit down with him and talk it out but, obviously that has not worked.
Well I guess I'm not as nice as everyone else. I would just tell him to shut up and not to speak to your children that way and if he doesn't like it he can shove it. And if the rest of the family doesn't like it either to bad.
Sometimes being polite to people especially your relatives gets you no where. Sometimes they just need to hear the straight up truth the hard way.
Here's some pixie dust for you to get tough.
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07-29-2004, 12:51 PM
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Community Rank: Trekker
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,590
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Re: The Mailman Brought Need of Pixie Dust
Sadly, I am in almost the same situation as you are. What started out OK with my DH and I before we got married got horrible afterwards. No matter what I do it gets worse. Trust me, DD has a grandfather who flatly stated after she was born, I don't do children and I don't want anything to do with yours. HUH? He does with the others.
You know what? Keep an eye on your son. Be a bee and stay within range of your son vs where BIL is. If he makes a bee line for your son? Get in the middle and say hey, BIL you are needed in the kitchen or somewhere. Anywhere. Trust me, the abuse he is getting now? Will affect him later. Be a blanket and hoover. If you don't now, your son will hate you later for it. I know, I remember abuse and wish my mother protected us. I've told my mother I hated her, but we still talk. She has gotten better and is a better Nana now then she was as a mother. Who knew.
Good luck and keep us posted on how it goes.
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