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I just read the article below - if this is true, I cannot even wrap my mind around it!!! I was thinking about previous trips and I can't say that I've seen anything like this.
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You know what, it wouldn't surprise me, but only because Disneyland attracts so many locals, so I can imagine clubs springing up for groups of fans to go together and sometimes clubs do have probation periods and some of the other things the article talked about.
As to the lawsuit, who knows? How easy is it to file a lawsuit in the States? I might be wrong, being a foreigner, but I thought it was quite easy to do, so maybe someone is just trying it out? It is quite a scary thought with what's being alleged though....
For a Small Claims suit (typically for damages of $2000 or less), you fill out a one- or two-page form, and pay a nominal fee - $20 or $30. Bam, lawsuit.
For anything larger, your hire a lawyer, they write up a multi-page suit, pay about $400, and bam: lawsuit.
There's no limitation, really, aside from the fee. Now, if a litigator lacks standing to sue, if there's no actual damages, etc ... it's relatively trivial for the defendant to get the case dismissed.
But there's really not much that can be done to prevent that person filing that civil suit in the first place.
As a lawyer, I disagree with Pax. Many people think anyone can file a lawsuit for any reason. That is not true. You must have a cause of action as well as jurisdiction, Maybe in some states clerks will accept cases just to get the filing fee ($85. in my state for small claims), but there is also a bit of work for the court to prepare orders of notice.
As a lawyer, ethically you cannot file suits with no legal basis. And in most cases, disputes settle before anything is filed.
My DD was 5 when she would respond if someone said "I'll sure you" with Do you have jurisdiction? a cause of action and damages.
I don’t care much about the suit. Maybe it has a reasonable basis. I presume that will be determined and settled somehow.
Forming these clubs, fine. Having fun with whatever Disney silliness members enjoy, okay, although I think endeavoring to fill a ride with members is pretty rude. Doing good works as a club, also great.
Beyond that, I really don’t see why such clubs adopted the appearance of biker gangs. That seems decidedly contradictory to the spirit of Disney parks, the original especially. I’d rather they chose some other uniform with no frightening associations for non-club guests.
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I don’t care much about the suit. Maybe it has a reasonable basis. I presume that will be determined and settled somehow.
Forming these clubs, fine. Having fun with whatever Disney silliness members enjoy, okay, although I think endeavoring to fill a ride with members is pretty rude. Doing good works as a club, also great.
Beyond that, I really don’t see why such clubs adopted the appearance of biker gangs. That seems decidedly contradictory to the spirit of Disney parks, the original especially. I’d rather they chose some other uniform with no frightening associations for non-club guests.
I've never seen groups walking around dressed like that at Disneyland, although that's not to say they don't exist.
I would be a bit annoyed if 100 people got in line on something I wanted to ride, but would just move on to the next thing--much easier at DLR & DCA than the WDW parks. But 100 cheerleaders packed the Star Tours FP line at DHS last week, and it wasn't a big deal. They were all dressed alike, too!
I read the article, and to me it seems like the author is taking one tiny issue between a couple people and trying to affix it to the clubs as a whole. It seems silly and a bit sensationalist to me to try to equate these clubs to gangs.
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I just think a local adult club that actively tries to fill a ride to see if they can is pushing the limits of rudeness.
If they wait in line like everyone else, I don't understand why that is a problem? Lots of people want to ride with their friends. Now, yes, most people don't go with 100 friends, but as long as their line etiquette is acceptable I don't see why it matters if they do this.
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The social clubs are pretty visible at DL. I met and had a few drinks at Trader Sam's with members of "The sons of Anakin" in 2013, it was a real treat. It's so fun to see the amazing Disney themed art they have created for their tatoos and vest regalia. They were basically just a bunch of rockabilly styled young adults enjoying each other's company in the Happiest Place on Earth.
Like others have said, focusing on the lawsuit seems like sensationalism.
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As a lawyer, I disagree with Pax. Many people think anyone can file a lawsuit for any reason. That is not true. You must have a cause of action as well as jurisdiction, Maybe in some states clerks will accept cases just to get the filing fee ($85. in my state for small claims), but there is also a bit of work for the court to prepare orders of notice.
Ah, but - respectfully - anyone can file that suit. And then truthfully say they have filed suit against someone. Now, whether or not it gets tossed in the waste bin before going anywhere, for any of a myriad reasons (e.g. lack of standing) is another issue entirely.
All the article says is that a suit was filed. Not that it's going forward, not that it doesn't lack merits, just ... it was filed.
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There is lots of Disney groups/clubs or people who love Disney. I googled and found a Disneyland meet up groups. https://www.meetup.com/topics/disney...sbX3tDjz5xqE7H
Passporters are a Disney group who love Disney. I don't see a problem with these groups either if they are following park rules and being decent human beings. The problem I see is the writer trying to play up whatever went on to sale newspapers and makes people think gangs are roaming DL.
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