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Old 02-12-2014, 07:40 AM   #16
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One of our cruelest and saddest remarks was heard by my DD...at the time she was about 10. We were at the beach (Cape Cod) and DH was still mobile but walked very "sloppy"...sorry but that's the only word I can think off....an uneven gait...tilting and swaying....losing balance then recovering.....and being on sand didn't help....just sloppy.
Anyway, as DH and our kids were passing by some "adults", one of the men there said to his companions in a very loud voice that made others around him stare at us...."Look at that guy (my DH)..he's drunk and takes his kids to the beach. How's he going to watch them in that condition. He should be arrested for neglect." (This was a private beach and I drove them down the street to the beach and had to return the car and walk back so I wasn't there to hear this.)
Well, DD stopped and said .....My dad has MS, he can't help it...but you're a jerk and you can help that.
When I got back DH felt so bad that he wanted to leave. I was proud of DD for speaking up. but DH was embarrassed and sad that she had to, so I went back to get the car for them to go back to the cottage.
That was the last summer DH was able to go to the beach. And the last time I ever let a jerk have the power to ruin anything.
I now (many years later) find myself in a similar condition. I now have to use a walker or ECV traveling. I now walk or rather I shuffle "sloppy". I'm healthy looking until I start to get up and walk.
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One of our cruelest and saddest remarks was heard by my DD...at the time she was about 10. We were at the beach (Cape Cod) and DH was still mobile but walked very "sloppy"...sorry but that's the only word I can think off....an uneven gait...tilting and swaying....losing balance then recovering.....and being on sand didn't help....just sloppy.
Anyway, as DH and our kids were passing by some "adults", one of the men there said to his companions in a very loud voice that made others around him stare at us...."Look at that guy (my DH)..he's drunk and takes his kids to the beach. How's he going to watch them in that condition. He should be arrested for neglect." (This was a private beach and I drove them down the street to the beach and had to return the car and walk back so I wasn't there to hear this.)
Well, DD stopped and said .....My dad has MS, he can't help it...but you're a jerk and you can help that.
When I got back DH felt so bad that he wanted to leave. I was proud of DD for speaking up. but DH was embarrassed and sad that she had to, so I went back to get the car for them to go back to the cottage.
That was the last summer DH was able to go to the beach. And the last time I ever let a jerk have the power to ruin anything.
I now (many years later) find myself in a similar condition. I now have to use a walker or ECV traveling. I now walk or rather I shuffle "sloppy". I'm healthy looking until I start to get up and walk.
All I can say is wow.....
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I don't think what motivates someone to say such rude things is bad manners so much as deepseated resentment of anyone who appears to be faking a disability.

Some of this attitude comes from the quite erroneous belief that the person is using a scooter or wheelchair because they're just too lazy to work hard enough not to need such aids. The "Get Some Gumption" attitude.

Then, there's also the factor of resenting that the disabled do nothing but mooch off the taxpayers by collecting disability when they should be supporting themselves. (Include here: "I pay higher taxes because we have to make everything accessible these days.") "Welfare Queen" syndrome, I call it.

Also, religious belief can feed such rudeness. If the person in the chair had the right religion and believed fervently enough, they'd be cured. "Right God" syndrome.

All the above add up to "Only Too Willing To Boss You" syndrome. The whole results in pretty ugly thinking and behavior.
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Mary Lou, what a terrible thing for your DH and DD to hear, but bravo to your DD for her brave and to-the-point response!
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Mary Lou, what a terrible thing for your DH and DD to hear, but bravo to your DD for her brave and to-the-point response!
Thank you Laurie. DD was "educated" about how her dad did look walking. His mobility was getting worse.
One day a young neighbor(about 6 years old) /a friend of the family said jokingly to me that "Jack looked like a drunk"......we (including DH) all laughed and agreed. It was an innocent child remark...nothing cruel in it's statement...but it got me thinking.
My younger "kids" were starting to invite school friends over. I thought that they should tell the kids about DHs medical condition and I let the other moms know. I would hate it if one of the invited friends went home and told their parents about how DH looked when walking. As a mom, I wouldn't want my child exposed to "a drunk" and would never let them go back to that friends home and of course, I didn't want my kids made fun of or "talked about" because of what DH looked like. So DD was aware of what that cruel remark meant and she could defend her dad.
It was embarrassing to all but in our case, it was a fact of life. And DD knew how to deal with it.
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Did you proceed to run him over because that's what you should have done...and then tell him to get up and walk! What a jerk!!
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Wow, I can't believe the things I'm reading. (Well, I can, but you kwim). I have fibro, and there are some days I can barely move, much less walk. I'm not in a scooter or wheelchair, but if I've learned anything from the fibro it's that not all disabilities are visible. How sad that not everyone realizes that. You can't fix stupid I guess.

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Yes, Stupid lasts forever.. It's nice to have so many people that "get it"
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No excuse for rudeness. You both have class in how you handle it!
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I can't believe someone would be so rude to you AND Mike. I'm speechless!
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