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Old 02-18-2011, 08:01 AM   #1
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Update from Disney Investor Conference on future projects/Reserving ride times

I saw this on the Disney Blog site, I haven't even read through it all and find it interesting!

Tom Staggs Offers Update on Walt Disney Parks & Resorts « Disney Parks Blog

They mention something about working on a new Fastpass system that would actually be for your whole vacation. I wonder if it is something like what Universal does? And alot of other ressie type features, for shows, character meets, etc. Wow, I can't wait to see if/when this comes about and how it works
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Sorry but I see this as a giant can of worms. I can hear the complaints now I couldn't get the time, day, ride I wanted. I don't know 6 months in advance what day/time I want to ride a ride see a show etc.

Then what happens no more fastpasses in the park for those who either, don't have a computer, didn't know about the feature, or the online bookings were full forcing people into the standby lines. That leads to the complaints of it not being fair or ruining the vacation because the lines were so long.

Will this mean they will start charging for them, or have different "ride packages" like the dining plans? If your at the values you can book "1 ride, 1 show" per person ahead of time per day. Moderates ...."2 rides 2 shows" per person ahead of time? and so on?

Or if its just as the dining reservations are will people try and scam the system like they are doing now by booking 1 reservation in their name, 1 in their cats name, 1 in their dead aunt's name. In case they decide to change plans last minute they can hold multiple times?

While I hope it runs smoothly and that none of these things happen I can't help but be skeptic of everything and take a wait for the can of worms to be opened and see what happens approach.
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Yes - read through it yesterday that Disney is trying to work on a system that you can book your rides before leaving home - like Ride ADRs? not sure I like it
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I don't think I'm a fan of it either! While I would love to get my KTTW cards before I leave home and bypass the desk, trying to decide what rides I want to ride and in what order seems a bit much to me! But I'm not an uber planner so that's probably why.
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Did anyone else read where it said that the World of Animation resort wouldn't open until 2013?
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yeah I don't like it either because what if you can't make the time you have set. I mean that takes away from just going and enjoying yourself. We are already constrained by the hands of time with your ADRS now if you add that in the mix it's like having everything on a schedule.
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I see it as a chance to be completely customizable or personalized to each family. But I could see how people don't like it as well. Maybe it is one of those things they give people the option to do or not do. And not just force it on everyone?
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Sounds complicated to me. For us, as AP holders who typically visit multiple times each year, we don't plan our trips to the second and our ADR schedule is typically restrictive enough. I wouldn't want to have to figure out which rides on which days in advance of my trip. How many times do you change your mind, such as when you get to MK and it's a mobscene, and hop to a different park? Or if it rains? Too many variables in that for me.
I like the FP system at Disney the way it is right now. I hope they don't mess with it too much!
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I've got a LOT of concerns about this. I'm a planner, but I'm not THAT big of a planner. I prefer to show up at MK (or any park, for that matter) and just sort of go where the flow takes me. I don't want to feel like I have to show up at 10:45am for Peter Pan and 2:10pm for Dumbo. I know it wouldn't be forced upon us, of course, and this is going to be awesome for some people, but then what happens if others show up with no "ride" or "character" reservations, and end up facing a 60 minute line because other people made reservations and they didn't?

I don't know... I'm just not sure about this at all. I'm all about personalizing your vacation but I feel like this is a bit much. I guess we'll see.

I do love the Pooh interactive queue and I would love to see that on every ride with a wait longer than 5 minutes. It's awesome, and ingenious.

I'll wait and see, of course, before I get all huffy (lol) but I'm not at all on board with this as described just yet. I'm sure Disney will do it right... but I need to see more first.
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The "vacation-long" FASTPASS sounds like a good idea...in theory. But is probably a bad idea in practice.

It's going to turn planning your vacation into too much work. Create too much of a schedule. Not let people do anything spontenous. The chances for, "hey, look, there's Mexican Donald Duck, let's get his autograph...oh wait, we can't we're scheduled to go on Mission Space in 15 minutes," will be reduced. A vacation should be, "do want you want, when you want." Not a schedule where you robotically move from place to place.
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The "vacation-long" FASTPASS sounds like a good idea...in theory. But is probably a bad idea in practice.

It's going to turn planning your vacation into too much work. Create too much of a schedule. Not let people do anything spontenous. The chances for, "hey, look, there's Mexican Donald Duck, let's get his autograph...oh wait, we can't we're scheduled to go on Mission Space in 15 minutes," will be reduced. A vacation should be, "do want you want, when you want." Not a schedule where you robotically move from place to place.
I agree.
And you can't really say it's okay because "you only have to do it if you want." That's true of dining ADR's too -- in practice. But once a critical mass of people does the ADR thing, everyone has to or risk getting shut out. We know what happens to people who try to use their dining credits on a walk-up basis.
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The "vacation-long" FASTPASS sounds like a good idea...in theory. But is probably a bad idea in practice.

It's going to turn planning your vacation into too much work. Create too much of a schedule. Not let people do anything spontenous. The chances for, "hey, look, there's Mexican Donald Duck, let's get his autograph...oh wait, we can't we're scheduled to go on Mission Space in 15 minutes," will be reduced. A vacation should be, "do want you want, when you want." Not a schedule where you robotically move from place to place.
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I agree.
And you can't really say it's okay because "you only have to do it if you want." That's true of dining ADR's too -- in practice. But once a critical mass of people does the ADR thing, everyone has to or risk getting shut out. We know what happens to people who try to use their dining credits on a walk-up basis.
Okay, this has to be a bad idea. A Wolverine and a Buckeye agree on something.
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Very interesting! Thanks for the info!
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All I can think about is the young family that are on their very first Disney trip and wasn't like our population that does obsessive online research. At least if you don't know about reserving ADR's there are ways to still get your meals in if not at the exact restaurants/times you want.

But how sad would it be to not be able to see the shows/ride the attractions because they didn't plan THAT in advance. Granted, I think that is an extreme example that is unlikely but I guess my point is that I can see this negatively impacting those families on their first magical vacations.

I'm a planner but depending on how deep they make this, it could be a real vacation killer.
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I really do not like the idea of the new FP system. I like to plan my vacations to a certain degree, but to plan ahead of time which ride and at what time I'm going to is a bit too much for me. Vacations are supposed to be fun, full of spontaneity, not some kind of robotic plan in which each and every minute is planned before you get to a park. Imagine telling your kid, "Sorry, but we can't go on Dumbo right now because our next reservation is for Jungle Cruise". I'm sorry, it doesn't work that way...
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