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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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07-08-2002, 01:08 PM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Boston, MA USA
Posts: 2,535
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Re: Which Disney Attraction Movie?
Watch it there capy, I liked the Tower of Terror movie [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] . Though I don't think I'd admit that anywhere but here and to my wife who long ago accepted my Clark W. Griswold ways (God bless her).
Now...ToT certainly isn't gonna win any awards but I'm pretty sure they made it as a straight to video/Disney Channel movie. Which, for me, gives it license to be goofy in a "Johnny Tsunami" kind of way. And I don't neccessarily think that's a bad thing. In fact, where appropriate, I actually think it's OK (and sometimes better) to get some low budget stuff in the mix too.
Case in point, when I first heard about Bears/Pirates/HM I figured they'd just follow the ToT model which (based on those awful "Bears" previews) I still think would have been the better way to go.
I guess I don't see em as serious movies, but more as attraction pre-pre-shows that make the rides a little more fun and help to fill the time between trips. And by making them big budget, theater release movies I think Disney has uneccessarily raised the bar on the concept. Still though, I'm confident HM and Pirates will turn out to be good ones.
In terms of Disneys overall TV/Film work these days, I do think they went through a bit of slide for awhile there. Nowhere more apparent than the woeful line-up and ratings at ABC. But, I think there are signs that things are coming around. There's a concerted effort to right the ship at ABC by getting back to a core of family based entertainment. I guess we'll see with this years line-up, though it might take more than one season to turn it around.
Moviewise, I thought The Rookie was phenomenal. A "G" rated movie adults could love. Monsters, Inc. was a success and Lilo & Stitch is a genuine hit with a back to basics animation look. And this week it'll be very interesting to see how Reign of Fire fares aginst the competition (opens Thursday I think).
So, in my incredibly uneducated film and TV oppinion, overall I'm pretty optomistic/happy with the Disney of 2002. Admitedly though, my taste in TV and movies is pretty suspect at best. Or, at least that what my wife tells me [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
[ 07-08-2002, 01:25 PM: Message edited by: mattjs ]
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07-08-2002, 11:11 PM
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Community Rank: Passenger
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 33
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Re: Which Disney Attraction Movie?
Matt - absolutely no disrespect intended, and I openly admit an anti-Guttenberg bias... You're right, too; I'm sure that Disney also intends them to be viewed as pre-pre-show films, meant as not -so-subtle "suggestive" hints to the viewing public to go visit the real attractions at their local Disney resort. Well ... mostly: DL no longer has a Country Bears attraction (which I mourn... love dem b'ars!)
I guess I'm ultimately irritated by their trying to augment these fully-contained, fully-realized attractions by trying to elaborate on or even re-tell the story. It's kinda like re-making a classic; why bother, except to make a quick buck?
I agree, too, about "Lilo & Stitch" - I loved it: light, funny, sweet, warm, tres cool and fluffy. All of their PIXAR efforts were tremendous (although SKG's "Ice Age" was also quite good (or was it Warner Bros.?)) And yes, "Reign of Fire" is (ahem) hotly anticipated... I've even been avoiding the previews for that one! (Speaking of which: seen the new Harry Potter trailer? Phenomenal! A property Disney should've pursued intensely. Oh well... maybe for the best they didn't...) My criticism with Disney's animation group is aimed at their TV and direct-to-video divisions, not their film group on whom I couldn't possibly lavish more praise.
I'm a Disney freak - but a critic, too. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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07-09-2002, 01:07 PM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Boston, MA USA
Posts: 2,535
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Re: Which Disney Attraction Movie?
I'd say we're pretty much in agreement. In the sense that, why bother making it into a big theater movie with big name stars and directors.
As a direct to TV/video I think they're kinda fun. As a theater movie though, I'm looking for a lot more. It's a higher standard, and one that I don't think was neccessary. We'll see though. Hopefully they'll be great.
As far as Harry Potter goes, I'm devastated this isn't in Disney's portfolio. Just got around to seeing the first one a couple weekends ago and was blown away. And can you imagine the rides they could have come up with? What a lost opportunity.
[ 07-09-2002, 01:10 PM: Message edited by: mattjs ]
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07-09-2002, 01:39 PM
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Yeti Chaser
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Way down south
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 20,411
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Re: Which Disney Attraction Movie?
My 3 kids and I went to see Lilo & Stitch and saw the Country Bears trailer. I was thinking "this looks stupid" while they were saying "Mom, that looks funny". So maybe that was the audience they were shooting for.
I didn't see much resemblence to the attaction except that there were bears in it.
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07-11-2002, 02:20 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: WI
Posts: 17,126
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Re: Which Disney Attraction Movie?
Since I am not a huge Country Bears fan, I will wait for that movie until video. Haunted Mansion and Pirates I can't wait to see. I think Eddie Murphy is so funny and I love J. Bruckheimer. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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07-12-2002, 12:20 AM
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Community Rank: Adventurer
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Rantoul, IL and Orlando, Fl
Posts: 940
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Re: Which Disney Attraction Movie?
hmm you're right there's absoultely no resemblance to the attraction- dem bears is just wearing modern clothes, strumming hillybilly instruments with a brand new drum set- agh that lost the charm- however for the other 2 attractions that remains to be seen.
also the TOT movie were pathetic- I just like to see the scenery- did you know they filmed in the actual lobby? well and the outside [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] they just removed the ropes and laid down red carpet put plants front of the doors that we come through [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] however if you just watch it for an "taste of Disney" it's very good in that respect. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
As for Harry Potter it lacks an certain disney charm because it's an kinda dark story involving evil wizards and death- especially in the 4th book- it just doesn't have that "happy ever after" feeling. so I certainly can understand why disney didn't go after that.
[ 07-11-2002, 12:28 PM: Message edited by: Jolin ]
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07-12-2002, 12:32 AM
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Community Rank: Scout
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: VERMONT
Posts: 4,201
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Re: Which Disney Attraction Movie?
While I love the bears, the movie looks dreadful.
I like the TOT movie too. Although if I wasn't a Disney nut it would probably be on my don't care if I ever see it again list.
Hope the other movie turn out well.
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