As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
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View Poll Results: Would you let your 17 yr old daughter stay out until 2-4 AM at an all ages club.
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Your niece is going to be really lucky if she doesn't end up pregnant, with an STD, or a druggie/alcohol abuser. Your SIL idea of supervision is not good. I'm so sorry you have to worry about her.
My DD (13) gets mad when I won't let her do things she wants because I don't trust the other kids or the parents to keep an eye on the situation. I keep telling her that I trust her, but not when she's with a group of friends who get each other going and make bad choices. (an example is her best friends mom was not home one day...I thought she was...and the girls painted part of her back fence and part of their swingset and themselves in a bright blue color). This is not the group of kids I'd let out together until all hours at age 17 either.
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No way would my parents have EVER in a million years let me stay out until 2am. 17 is just way to young and I don't care how much you trust your children, its the other people out there you need to be worried about.
My three are all over 20 so curfews are no longer an issue. My second DS was very involved with the First Engineering competition and they had building/design nights that went into the early mornings right before the competition. I was not happy about it and spoke with the adult advisors who were in charge. Once DS came home at 5 AM on a school night-his ride was a parent advisor. I then spoke to the school. I don't care how pro social and educational the activity was, my children needed a decent night's sleep before a school day.
Other than that and sleep overs, my kids never needed to be out that late. If they wanted to be at a friend's until the early hours, they usually stayed overnight and that tended to be on special occasions and with parents present.
DD did stay out at 17 to 2 AM on her "Day on College Hill" pre-freshman program but that was in school sponsored activities. She has also spent time at a good friend's summer cabin with a group of kids, including overnights. I knew who the kids were and that they would behave.
I'm not even sure how late they are out is what really matters. Plenty of little ones stay up too late for sleep over birthday parties. My feeling is that no teenager needs to be at a club/bar, even a juice bar. There are too many kids and the parent cannot control who the child is hanging out with. They may go with the best teen in the world, but may meet and hang out with the worse.
I don't think you can make a hard and fast rule. You need to look at the child, the activity and who they will be with.
My dd is only 13 and although the way it looks she will be a very mature responsible teenager it's not always your kid you have to worry about but the other kids. I would never let my dd stay out that late at 17
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The only way I would allow this is if they were coming or going to work. I think a lot of times these days parents try to be best friends with their children instead of parents. Children are not adults until age 18. What troubles me the most is when prominent people in gov. and TV tell kids they can make their own choices and don't have to listen to their parents.
I was 19 engaged and finished with my first year of college and I still had to be home by 12! (talk about strict) I hated it and felt my parents were disrespecting me but even with that there will be curfews and limits on my kids when they are older. It will be based on the child, the occasion and the responsibility they have showed me. However, once they are adults and in college I will hope I raised them to make good choices and take responsibility for bad ones.
The only advice I have for your SIL is the same my counselor gave to me "when you make choices to not be like someone you are still letting them control your actions"
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