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Just wanted to put this thread out here in case anyone has ever had a similar situation to mine. I am a Social Studies teacher at a local high school in New York. we are alloted 5 snow days in our district calendar each school year. Since Easter is in March this year, our district gave us a 4 day weekend at that time and is then giving us the usually week off in April. This seems like a great time to visit WDW! However, if we use more than our 5 snow days, the giveback days are that week of April.
I have been toying with (as you could see if you have visited my PTR or the Poll thread I posted yesterday) switching a somewhat rushed Memorial Day weekend trip we were going to take with a slightly longer trip in April, during this Spring Break week, but setting our check in for Tuesday, this way- if need be I could be back in school for Monday and even Tuesday if we had to give back days, depending on how I time our flight (which I would wait on to book for just such an occasion). Do you think this is still a gamble? Anyone have to switch a vacay before? How hard would it be if I HAD to move it to May or summer?
I know April would be more magical-- better weather, Flower and Garden at its prime, and possible Pirate and Princess Party that week. But this is my career and I am not tenured to if we have to be in school, that is where I will be. I was thinking of have snow dates, and pick a similar week or weekend and make backup ADRs in case we need to change our reservation. Help!
Personally, I would do the Spring Break and if I had to, have a sub. Not very dedicated, maybe, but you have personal days for a reason! (I'm an aide, not a teacher, but same premise.)
Isn't it funny that in NY you get 5 days for snow, and in Alaska we get only 2!
Do you not have personal days you can take if there is school? I am a second grade teacher and I have never taken a vacation during the school year before. But this year I am, and I am so excited!!! We are going to AKL for 9 days in January. Anywhere is warmer that Alaska in January and the crowds are so much better too. Hope you enjoy your April trip
I'd second (or third) the use of personal days. In our district, I think they get 3 a year. I'd continue with your spring break plans, and if need be, use personal days. It's not like much work is going to get done at that time anyway, since everyone else is already planning their vacations as well for that week and kids are probably not going to change their vacation plans
Personally, I would do the Spring Break and if I had to, have a sub. Not very dedicated, maybe, but you have personal days for a reason! (I'm an aide, not a teacher, but same premise.)
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Isn't it funny that in NY you get 5 days for snow, and in Alaska we get only 2!
Do you not have personal days you can take if there is school? I am a second grade teacher and I have never taken a vacation during the school year before. But this year I am, and I am so excited!!! We are going to AKL for 9 days in January. Anywhere is warmer that Alaska in January and the crowds are so much better too. Hope you enjoy your April trip
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I'd second (or third) the use of personal days. In our district, I think they get 3 a year. I'd continue with your spring break plans, and if need be, use personal days. It's not like much work is going to get done at that time anyway, since everyone else is already planning their vacations as well for that week and kids are probably not going to change their vacation plans
Here's the thing, though-- I am untenured and it is a BIG no-no for me to take a personal day on or around a vacation. Our district really is sticklers for that kinda thing even with the tenured teachers. I mean, if I tried to take a personal or sick day on a return day I would literally be compromising my job. If I had tenure I may just say screw it and take the grunt when I return.... but since I am a newbie its sort of out of the question. Is it worth the gamble?
IMO: Given your restrictions and worry, I would schedule for a time that you KNOW you can go. Assume that you will be working, and enjoy the time off at home, planning your trip, if you are not.
It is my belief that planning for a vacation should be fun, and worrying about important things, namely your career, does not enhance the anticipation, but steals from it.
Whatever you decide to do, have fun and take care of yourself in the process!
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IMO: Given your restrictions and worry, I would schedule for a time that you KNOW you can go. Assume that you will be working, and enjoy the time off at home, planning your trip, if you are not.
It is my belief that planning for a vacation should be fun, and worrying about important things, namely your career, does not enhance the anticipation, but steals from it.
Whatever you decide to do, have fun and take care of yourself in the process!
Thats the funny thing though... I was worrying about May as well, because of time restraints and whatnot.
I wish I could guarantee that we would not use more than 7 days. I think I may just hope for the best and put my deposit down with the April dates. This was we will have some winter pass by before we would owe anything else and possibly have to switch. Idunno.
I have a conflicting brain right now-- part of it is saying to go for it and part of it is like wait for summer (but then I think of the bleh weather, no fun events, and get the been there- dont that feeling)....
Any other input would be wonderful!
Anyone been in this position before?
I work in a school now and my husband just retired from a different school district. In both of our districts, if there is a give back of snow days off of say Spring Break, if the teacher, or aide or anybody else has a confirmed airline and hotel reservation for those give back days, then they are allowed to go on the scheduled vacation with no penalty against their pay. Last year, the district my kids go to (even different) used up more than their scheduled snow days by February because of that October suprise snowstorm and other wintry days. Anyway, the union made a deal with the district to work an extra day at the end of the year and also give back a conference day in order not to lose any days at Spring Break. So, I think it all depends on your union contract. Personally, we would go on the vacation!
If I were risking my job, I wouldn't do it. I think the district is asking for trouble by possibly taking days back from a scheduled spring break. Too many families are going to plan vacations and they won't change them, so even if you are in school many of the kids will not be there and teaching won't be effective. Of course, you can't change that and it doesn't solve your problem.
i don't really have any advice, just a little blurb...my mom is a retired first grade teacher and she took personal days every now and then just to get away. she called them "mental health days." her principal never really cared (he was a jerk and only cared about "certain" teachers, if you get my drift...) good luck deciding!! just hope for no snow!!!
I work in a school now and my husband just retired from a different school district. In both of our districts, if there is a give back of snow days off of say Spring Break, if the teacher, or aide or anybody else has a confirmed airline and hotel reservation for those give back days, then they are allowed to go on the scheduled vacation with no penalty against their pay. Last year, the district my kids go to (even different) used up more than their scheduled snow days by February because of that October suprise snowstorm and other wintry days. Anyway, the union made a deal with the district to work an extra day at the end of the year and also give back a conference day in order not to lose any days at Spring Break. So, I think it all depends on your union contract. Personally, we would go on the vacation!
Yes, I'm wondering what you're contract says as well. Personally I'd never have this problem as we make up snow days at the end of the school year, not during school vacations. I think it is terrible that you could be penalized for making vacation plans DURING a vacation week. I'm sure plenty of kids miss those days, as families plan vacation for that time too.
I'd make the plans but make sure you get refundable airfare (or wait to book that) and know the cancellation policies of whatever you decide to book.
I am a teacher also (in CT), and most districts here have similiar "give back" and "no personal days around vacations" policies. But contracts also state that the excess snow days have to happen before February 1st in order for days to be taken from a vacation. That being said, I have NEVER had a district take days away from the spring vacation. The provision is there, IMO, mostly because schools cannot run into July, and if there are too many snow days some schools would run the risk of not meeting the 180 day requirement. No one wants to take those days away if it can be avoided.
Has your district ever done it? Find out, and if it hasn't ever (or recently) happened I would take the gamble (buying refundable airfare of course). I would also check to see what provisions are made for those staff members who have planned a vacation and there ends up being give back days. I'll wager that they do relax the "no personal days" rule. If they don't allow you to use a personal day, they might allow a day without pay.
I work in a school now and my husband just retired from a different school district. In both of our districts, if there is a give back of snow days off of say Spring Break, if the teacher, or aide or anybody else has a confirmed airline and hotel reservation for those give back days, then they are allowed to go on the scheduled vacation with no penalty against their pay. Last year, the district my kids go to (even different) used up more than their scheduled snow days by February because of that October suprise snowstorm and other wintry days. Anyway, the union made a deal with the district to work an extra day at the end of the year and also give back a conference day in order not to lose any days at Spring Break. So, I think it all depends on your union contract. Personally, we would go on the vacation!
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If I were risking my job, I wouldn't do it. I think the district is asking for trouble by possibly taking days back from a scheduled spring break. Too many families are going to plan vacations and they won't change them, so even if you are in school many of the kids will not be there and teaching won't be effective. Of course, you can't change that and it doesn't solve your problem.
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i don't really have any advice, just a little blurb...my mom is a retired first grade teacher and she took personal days every now and then just to get away. she called them "mental health days." her principal never really cared (he was a jerk and only cared about "certain" teachers, if you get my drift...) good luck deciding!! just hope for no snow!!!
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Yes, I'm wondering what you're contract says as well. Personally I'd never have this problem as we make up snow days at the end of the school year, not during school vacations. I think it is terrible that you could be penalized for making vacation plans DURING a vacation week. I'm sure plenty of kids miss those days, as families plan vacation for that time too.
I'd make the plans but make sure you get refundable airfare (or wait to book that) and know the cancellation policies of whatever you decide to book.
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I am sending you some that it all works out. Now I will be watching the weather for NY hoping everything goes off for you without a hitch!
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I am a teacher also (in CT), and most districts here have similiar "give back" and "no personal days around vacations" policies. But contracts also state that the excess snow days have to happen before February 1st in order for days to be taken from a vacation. That being said, I have NEVER had a district take days away from the spring vacation. The provision is there, IMO, mostly because schools cannot run into July, and if there are too many snow days some schools would run the risk of not meeting the 180 day requirement. No one wants to take those days away if it can be avoided.
Has your district ever done it? Find out, and if it hasn't ever (or recently) happened I would take the gamble (buying refundable airfare of course). I would also check to see what provisions are made for those staff members who have planned a vacation and there ends up being give back days. I'll wager that they do relax the "no personal days" rule. If they don't allow you to use a personal day, they might allow a day without pay.
Good luck to you.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for all your input and pixie dust.
On the school calendar that is given out before summer for the following school year it lists 5 days that we are technically off from school that would be used to cover snow days if we use to many. Our Spring Break week, as it does not interfere with any religious holidays this year, is those 5 days.
The teachers contract does not state that I cannot take personal days around a holiday BUT i know for a fact that it is a strict policy that they don't want you doing that, so why jeopardize my tenure? Thats all I am saying. I will not take off that week, I will be at school if we use our snow days, period.
I went to high school at the school I teach at and in this district and way back when there were winters where we had to give up spring holidays but never that I can recall a full week- a day or two that I can remember. Last winter, which was quite mild, we got 2 back. For the most part the district tries to break even.
Remember I am accounting for 1-2 possible give backs with my vacation. I think I am going to go with my original plan of booking with a deposit only and coming up with a back up long weekend just in case, then I will just make ADRs under my boyfriends name for the back up week and cancel if winter pans out how I would like it to. I think its worth it for the possibility of see the P&PP and on top of it the better weather and Flower and Garden Fest. I must be crazy. lol!
Isn't it funny that in NY you get 5 days for snow, and in Alaska we get only 2!
My theory would be that you have so much snow that you are MUCH more capable of dealing with it. Three crazy flakes here in NYC and the news people scream from the highest Doppler Antenna to hunker down for a LOOOONG winter's nap. Ever since the BLIZZARD of '96 when we were surprised and burried under a whopping 3 feet, the city takes no chances
MEL! Just be careful how you use your days in the meanwhile. If your trip reports reflect in any way your work ethic and productivity in the classroom, I'd bet you are a gem in the principal's eyes. Take a lot of Airborne and vitamins so your face is always at work. Then IF, and it's a big IF, there are snow day make-ups, you can miss one or two fairly guilt free. I've used personal days for Disney before - NYC Board of Ed. My then DBF, now DH, was my assistant teacher at the time while going to college courtesy of the NYC BOE. Imagine telling the principal that not only would I be missing a couple of days, but I'm taking my aide with me He wasn't thrilled.
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