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Old 05-18-2002, 08:48 PM   #1
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Anyone bought a vehicle online?

I've been playing around with Carpoint.com pricing a new truck. Anyone here bought online before? The price they are giving me is below invoice. [img]graemlins/usa.gif[/img]
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Old 05-21-2002, 09:59 AM   #2
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I just bought a VW Passat and used Carsdirect.com to help me. I didn't buy from them, but I was put in contact with a couple dealers and was able to haggle via email/phone. I had the price all set when I walked into the dealership. It was much more enjoyable than dealing with a salesman face to face. Plus you can do so much research online that helps you greatly. You will still pick the car up from a dealer, the website just acts as a middle man to save you some hassle.
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Old 05-21-2002, 04:37 PM   #3
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Just a lot of research that I hope I don't have to do for many more years! I've got two brand new cars in my garage with 2 payments now! UGH! You may also check with your insurance company. I have USAA and they have a buying service that guarantees the absloute lowest price for the consumer! Just a thought, but good luck!
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Old 05-21-2002, 04:49 PM   #4
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Re: Anyone bought a vehicle online?

Disneydad...DH works for a large dealership (municipal sales, but he used to do retail in another life!!) If you need feedback on the pricing of a specific vehicle feel free to email me and I can have him do some research.

We've found that--while we've never bought anything over the internet--it can be a useful tool for gathering information to bring to a dealership with you. In general we've known within $4-5 (literally) what our payments on a specific car were going to be. Some people mistakenly believe that ordering online is "cutting out the middleman" where actually they're more of a broker hooking up the buyer & seller; everyone is making $$, though it can be a useful option of people who dislike the (sometimes confrontational) process of dealing with a salesman.

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I'm the same -- done an awful lot of research, even gotten quotes on cars before, but never closed a deal online. I was always able to haggle to a better deal in person.

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Hey Disneydad!
You wouldn't happen to be eyeing up a Cadilac would ya!
ohhhh! that would be so cool!

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Hey Disneydad!
You wouldn't happen to be eyeing up a Cadilac would ya!
ohhhh! that would be so cool!

`kris, lover of caddies and other fine autos
<font size="2" face="Comic Sans MS, Arial">I would love to get a Caddy Pickup like the one at Test Track. But, I believe I am gettin a Ford F-150 Super Crew soon. I need the full size rear seats for my kids. I haul my lawn tractor, mulch and tonight 2 marble topped kitchen sets. I need a truck. [img]graemlins/usa.gif[/img]
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My dearest Hubby knows your pain...oh how he longs for his ideal truck....which never includes the room for the kids!
Honestly I dont know how people survive without a truck?
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DH talked me into buying a suburban about 8 months ago (this was a third car, we each have sedans). After feeling the pain of paying for gas, we sold it two months ago.
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