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There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
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It just gets to the point where you have to either leave for a few minutes or pour yourself a stiff drink! Mine (DS19 and DD17½) are pretty good for the most part now, but there's still times when I just walk away and leave them to sort it out.
I second that! There's a lot to be said for a good stiff drink. Just to take the edge off. I skip the preliminaries. I just keep vodka in the freezer, and whenever I'm having one of "those" days, I pour myself an ice cold shot. Always does the trick. My two boys are 18 and 16. Sometimes I have to send myself to MY room and put out the "Do not disturb" sign. They tell me it will get better. I'll have to get back to you on that.
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I'll go against the grain (alcohol ) and say that I'd much prefer to have all my senses sharp and intact when dealing with teens! My older 2 are 2 1/2 years apart and my younger ones are, too. So, we did the 2 PMSing, hair-pulling, trying to push down the stairs thing once and are gearing up for it again. When they got bad, I reminded them that this is MY house and they can fight outside of it. After they got put out in the snow in their jammies a few times, that seemed to let up somewhat. Yelling and screaming is ineffective, I can tell you, so you need to find their "currency". And, even with 11 & 8, seperate spaces and everyone in them is a happy thing. Breathe in, breathe out...they will turn back into nice people that you kinda like in about 5-8 years...
it's threads like this that sell me on the old adage "One and Done!"
Here, Here!! However, I can't help but smile mischeviously remembering the thread from about a week ago (I think Chrissi started it). Everyone was sharing stories of the gross things their boys said/did, and everyone was chiming in about how glad they were that "they had girls" and didn't have to deal with it! I'll take gross frog guts and discussions regarding the different types of boogers and farts over a moody teen-age girl! I was one, and I know how bad it can get!!!
This sounds so familiar, and I'm glad to hear I'm not alone. DD (16) and DS (almost 14) literally can't be in the same room w/o a war. And I have to say, it's not DD (anymore) that starts it. DS needs to learn to butt out and close his mouth. I know that soon that shall pass, and then it will be time for the next DD (9) to start...
You know that drink is starting to sound pretty good...
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I have no clue. My dad and step-mom have 5 kids between them. We're (his): 41, & 40 and (hers); 40, 37 & 34
You'll notice that at one time, there were 4 of us in the same age group. Dad and Mom say that you just have to learn how to drown out the stuff that doesn't matter. And, you don't get into any of their arguments.
I have no idea how one would deal with that at home, but some days I look like this after dealing with the junior high school students (ages 12-15 - caseload of 27) in my behavior adjustment program!!
Hang in there! Someday they will get through those awful teenage years and emerge as normal human beings on the other side. Once DD hit about 16, she started acting normal again, and I actually enjoyed being around her.
When DD was little she used to like to cut things out of magazines and make collages etc out of them. Once she cut a saying out of a magazine and handed it to me. She was too little to read what it said, but it was very prophetic. This is what it said: "Mothers of teenagers know why animals eat their young!" I nearly died of laughter when I read it. That saying hung on my refrigerator for years, and it helped me get through those teenage years with her.
I don't remember much conflict between DS and DD when they were teenagers, but NOW the stories come out about DS tormenting DD by sitting on her and tickling her until she peed!! They are 40 and almost 36. DS has a 17 yr old DS and it's fun to watch that process! DD has a 5 yr old DS and is expecting in Nov so she will have to deal with dualing teens in the future. Wonder if I'll still be around to see that?? I hope so!
I was told that living with a teenager is like living with a two year old again - only they're bigger, stronger, have a more extensive vocabulary and YOU are wayy more exhausted.
You have no idea how true that is. At a staff development training we had this past school year, the speaker told us that teenagers between 11 and 15 are going through the same brain growth changes that a 2 year old does. So those teenagers REALLY arelike 2 year olds and there is a medical reason for that.
ANyway, I only have one tween child and she is a bigenough handfl as it is.
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i know it seems hard to deal with now but one day your house will be quiet with both at college and you will want them back fighting.
NOT ME!
Actually, I like that when my two boys (15 months apart) come home now, they seem to actually like each other! I never thought I would see the day! I figured when they left they would never speak to each other again in their lives! the fighting was horrible, with DS2 pushing DS1's buttons. They were so close in age and so different in personality, sometimes it felt like I had WW3 and WW4 in our house! When DS1 asked DS2 to be Godfather to our DGD, I cried. So, hang in there! This too shall pass!
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Mine (DS19 and DD17½) are pretty good for the most part now, but there's still times when I just walk away and leave them to sort it out.
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) and say that I'd much prefer to have all my senses sharp and intact when dealing with teens! My older 2 are 2 1/2 years apart and my younger ones are, too. So, we did the 2 PMSing, hair-pulling, trying to push down the stairs thing once and are gearing up for it again. When they got bad, I reminded them that this is MY house and they can fight outside of it. After they got put out in the snow in their jammies a few times, that seemed to let up somewhat. Yelling and screaming is ineffective, I can tell you, so you need to find their "currency". And, even with 11 & 8, seperate spaces and everyone in them is a happy thing. Breathe in, breathe out...they will turn back into nice people that you kinda like in about 5-8 years... 
mischeviously remembering the thread from about a week ago (I think Chrissi started it). Everyone was sharing stories of the gross things their boys said/did, and everyone was chiming in about how glad they were that "they had girls" and didn't have to deal with it! I'll take gross frog guts and discussions regarding the different types of boogers and farts over a moody teen-age girl! I was one, and I know how bad it can get!!!
I have a 15 yo DD, but sometimes she can seem like 3 teenagers! 
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Someday they will get through those awful teenage years and emerge as normal human beings on the other side. Once DD hit about 16, she started acting normal again, and I actually enjoyed being around her. 
I never thought I would see the day! I figured when they left they would never speak to each other again in their lives! the fighting was horrible, with DS2 pushing DS1's buttons. They were so close in age and so different in personality, sometimes it felt like I had WW3 and WW4 in our house! When DS1 asked DS2 to be Godfather to our DGD, I cried. So, hang in there! This too shall pass!
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