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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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01-26-2002, 02:32 PM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Corsicana, Texas, USA
Posts: 2,027
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Help w/a BIG dilema!!!
Here it is....last year my SIL got VERY ticked off at us for not inviting their family to go to WDW w/us. We have gone on vacations w/them in the past as our boys are all close in age. The thing is, she thinks we have to do EVERYTHING together! And she drives my DH crazy. My DH and I like to have time w/just our family. My SIL probably won't get to take her kids unless we ask them, her DH (my DH's brother) refuses to go, he's a....well nevermind. He would go w/us though if we asked. No child should miss WDW, so I feel guilty for not wanting them to go. I'm being selfish? This is our last trip to WDW so I want everything to be magical. We just REALLY don't enjoy vacations w/them, of course the kids enjoy being together. [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img] I've even thought of suggesting that they stay in a different resort, that way we could "visit" each other a cupl. of nights for dinner. And maybe do 1 park w/ them. She'd probably get mad at the suggestion!
Please help!! [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] I'm really having a hard time w/this and my DH is already tired of me talking about WDW. Any suggestions? [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img]
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01-26-2002, 04:50 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 7,150
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Re: Help w/a BIG dilema!!!
Ewww is all I have to say! This is a very sticky topic for it is family involved! Well, if I was in your shoes (which Im happy Im not, no offense!) I would just explain to her that we can do things any other time, but I would like this just to be us going to Disney. Though the idea of the seperate resorts is a good idea too! If she gets mad about it, I wouldnt fret over it too much. I think everyone has one like that in every family, I know I do!! Keep your head up and the best to do is to be honest with her and see where it goes. Good luck!
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01-26-2002, 05:03 PM
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Community Rank: Trekker 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Philadelphia, PA 19140
Posts: 1,293
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Re: Help w/a BIG dilema!!!
Well this is my opinion. I am only one person so don't take it as law... Now that the disclaimer is out of the way....
I know what it is like to take vacations with people who don't want to give you space. I myself have learned to just tell the truth to avoid a problem later. I would invite them, but let them know that you have things planned for just you, your husband and your kids. Tell her upfront that you would love for her to go, but that you will not be able to spend every waking moment with her and her family. If she gets mad....well all I can say is that it's her loss and not yours.
I learned from past trips that if you don't speak up you will end up miserable and probably sick and they will have the time of their lives at your expense.
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01-26-2002, 06:57 PM
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Magic Happens!
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: E. Stroudsburg, PA
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 29,184
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Re: Help w/a BIG dilema!!!
Shonnie,
Are you a long lost relative? Because your SIL I think is my SIL. Wow! You can email me if you want (I think I fixed my email problem) but if not it is rescuesk@noln.com. I will give you our whole history and how we dealt with it. I have done 2 family vacations to WDW and i swore I would never go back with everyone. My SIL thinks that she is a theme park commando and plans for us all. After about three days, all that togetherness gets a tad annoying. It is also difficult as my step son and nephew have similar interests, but my other nephew is much younger and has totally different interests.
Do what is right for YOUR family...trust me!! A trip to WDW (especially if it might be your last one) is too magical to waste being miserable!
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01-28-2002, 10:13 AM
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Community Rank: Scout 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: VERMONT
Posts: 4,201
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Re: Help w/a BIG dilema!!!
Does she let you call the shots and just follow you around or does she try to make some of your plans? If she tells you what they are doing on a certain day you could just say you had plans to do something else (maybe something she wouldn't want to do). If she just follows you, how about not answering your hotel room phone and letting them take messages for you. You could tell her that you were out of the room when she called. If you stay at the same resort, let them check-in first and then when your turn comes explain to the CM your situation and ask for a room far away from hers. You can always make an excuse that they didn't have a room close. That is if you can't tell her your problem (I would never be able to and would take the cowards way out).
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01-28-2002, 10:53 AM
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Community Rank: Legend 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Slate Belt, PA
Concierge Level: 7
Posts: 15,346
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Re: Help w/a BIG dilema!!!
Unless your husband's brother makes an issue of not being invited, I wouldn't worry. DH and I make a point of avoiding those people who would horn in on our vacation or even show up uninvited. My advice (as unapologetic as it is, it does work) is to simply avoid talking to them about your trip until well after you get back. If your SIL mentions it again, simply change the subject or tell her you don't want to discuss it in front of the whole family. Pull her aside and point out that some family vacations need to be just family. Not the whole extended family and that you just want to take a trip with your husband and kids. If she wants to go that badly, she'll find a way. I assume she's a grown-up and can make reservations on her own. Just my $0.02. Let me know how it goes! [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
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01-28-2002, 11:21 AM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Florida Big Bend
Posts: 17,133
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Re: Help w/a BIG dilema!!!
I guess yet again I'm shown that our family situation is not as unique as I think; for we have an in-law like that on BOTH sides of the family!!
Do let us know how you handle the situation so I may defer to it if/when I am in the same situation later in the year.
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01-28-2002, 11:33 AM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Omaha, NE, USA
Posts: 2,025
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Re: Help w/a BIG dilema!!!
Can you suggest that you overlap vacations? For example, you go for a week and tell S
IL that you have 2-3 unplanned days toward the end of your vacation and you'd really like them to come down towards the end -and then if they want to stay a few extra days after you leave they can. Just an idea.
We had a family situation on our last trip as well. We had planned to go with my sisters family and our parents, but then my dad started with these $$ power trips, saying he'd pay for everyones air/resort but there were all these conditions. Finally DH said he wasn't going with all the conditions. This put me in a bad spot becuase I didn't want to go without DH. We finally backed out of the vacation and went with friends, which I think disappointed my sister, although she still went with her family the week before we went. My parents didn't end up going with either of us. Family situations are so touchy. Hope you can work it out.
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01-29-2002, 12:04 AM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Corsicana, Texas, USA
Posts: 2,027
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Re: Help w/a BIG dilema!!!
patsy-c......you could definately be on to something! My SIL doesn't like to take hers out of school because of the perfect attend. thing. We will however be taking ours out for one extra day right before the Thanksgiving holidays. Maybe we would get at least ONE day alone! I'm thinking that I should just suggest they stay at a different resort so we can visit. And I know they'll want to do Epcot and we aren't this time. So it MIGHT possibly work. But you know what?!? I might be worrying for nothing...if I put off telling them a few more months, they might not even be able to go. That would be a big relief!! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] Thanks so much all of you for letting me hash this out with yall.
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