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Old 04-30-2006, 12:41 AM   #1
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Don\'t want to be a \"neglectful\" mom again...DD and her arm, WWYD?

A few years ago my teen DD fell UP the stairs [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img] and I blew off her arm pain only to find that she did, indeed, have a fracture and I was awarded my Bad Mom trophy. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

10yo has been complaining that her forearm hurts, can't remember a specific injury. This is the child who giggled through an entire exam where she was suspected to have appendicitis, serious vomiting, dehydration, etc, but giggled and could not express pain. Fortunately, the doc knew her well enough and sent us to the ER (wound up being mesenteric lymph inflammation, still very painful). The only time I've seen her cry was when she had whooping cough and that was out of fear of not being able to breathe. Even when she cut herself and needed stitches, not a tear.

All that said, I don't know what to do about her arm. If I take her to the ER, she won't express the pain like she does at home due to her selective mutism and most doctors I've encountered are simply not trained enough to understand it. I've done the RICE thing and there's hardly any swelling. DH thinks I should just put her in an ace wrap and a sling for a few days and see how it goes, but I do NOT need another Bad Mom trophy. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/082502no_prv.gif[/img]
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Since when does a NORMAL forearm have ANY swelling. If there's any swelling at all, there's some problem. Take her to the doctor - explain her reactions to the Dr. if necessary, but get it X-rayed. Your gonna feel a whole lot worse if you wait and find out later that something WAS wrong!
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Re: Don\'t want to be a \"neglectful\" mom again...DD and her arm, WWYD?

I agree! Take her to the Dr. or the E.R. and let them know you want this x-rayed. Period. If they say she's not showing any pain, explain it, but b e firm.

I know what you mean about the bad mommy award. My middle DD has weird accidents and there for 3 years, broke bones in weird and unusual ways. (she slipped in the kitchen, fell and slid into the fridge, breaking her leg: broke her leg after tripping over the dog, walking up a hill: slipped on a DRY bathroom floor and broke her arm - and all of them I was told by the hospital there was nothing wrong, and made her used them for 3-5 days BEFORE the Hospital called to tell me they had made a mistake, yet again, and yes, it was broken after all - go see the ped. ortho specialist!. One of those breaks was her Growth Plate!! We had to listen to a lecture by the Dr. because we made her walk on a broken growth plate and take gym, with running, and now maybe there was permanant damamge!!) We don't go to the hospital anymore.

Anyway, go. For your peace of mind.
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When in doubt, I'd take her. Once you explain how she reacts to injury, they will understand. I see it as a win/win situation. If you go & she does have a fracture - you'll feel better. If you go & she doesn't have a fracture - you'll feel better! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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I think you should take her Dawn, better to be safe than sorry. I hope she's ok [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img].

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When my son was 9 or 10, he went to a skating party, he fell, and his arm was bothering him, I couldn't see any problem, and he wanted to finish the party so we stayed and then went to the meal part afterward at a burger place. When we were leaving, he started to get me a newspaper out of the machine, trying to be helpful, his 2 1/2 yr sister decided to shut the door for him... with his arm still in the machine. It was the same arm he had fallen on... by the time we got home, it was really hurting him, so I left the twins with my husband and took him for xrays... he had a greenstick fracture... had to go the following monday and get a cast put on him... I felt bad for weeks for not taking him seriously at the rink, but he had said he was ok. But it should have been me deciding whether he should go, not him....
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