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So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
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We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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09-26-2005, 02:35 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: In the state of Disney Dreaming!
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 10,572
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Day 4: Ohhh, Ahhh, Shiny!
Our flight from Philadelphia went off without a hitch. We were able to get coffee (very important!) and the boys some breakfast while we waited for our flight. DS#2 and I lucked out because the third person scheduled for our side of the aisle never showed up. We had extra room on a plane that was 98% full. DH and DS#1 were jealous! It was such a beautiful flight – the Rocky Mountains! It was funny because the pilot not only pointed them out, he flew around in circles showing us them for about 10 minutes! He was so much fun! And he flew around and around the Grand Canyon. For awhile, I thought we were on a tour plane! We left Philly at 8:00 am and arrived in LAX about 10:30. It was a smooth – but long flight. It was the longest we have ever taken.
DD’s flight from Orlando was scheduled to arrive about 9:30. She was flying Delta, we had US Air. I wasn’t sure how we’d get together. But I have one smart DD. Her flight was early – landed about 9 so she had a lot of time on her hands. She picked up her luggage and then took a bus from Delta over to US Air (apparently not an easy feat!) When we arrived in baggage, she was there. First words out of her mouth: I thought it was hot in CA! She had a coat on, but was freezing! This is going to be a reoccurring sight all week!
We had decided to rent a mini-van so off we went to find a Hertz bus. Thanks to mousesavers.com, I had seen that the enrollment fee for the Emerald Club was waived so I had signed up. We arrived at Hertz, found our mini-van in the Emerald lane – showed my driver’s license and credit card…and we were off! Fast, easy – except lugging 10 pieces of luggage out of the airport-onto the bus-out of the bus-into the van. But there were five of us – and we don’t pack light!
We grabbed some local maps while at Hertz, but I had also printed out directions on line before leaving home. They were easy to follow and before we knew it, we were on I-5 heading towards the Happiest Celebration on Earth!
In planning our trip, I was told over and over again how congested it was around DL, the hotels, the restaurants, etc. I even downloaded and printed the map to show my Dfamily so no one would be surprised. Well, let me tell you – it’s nothing like we expected! We must have come off the highway onto a strange entrance because all we saw were some hotels – but mostly apartment buildings and then we were at the entrance to the Grand Californian Hotel. After being told Welcome Home, we decided to use valet so the bags were unloaded and stored – the van safe and sound and we entered the GCH lobby. Very . It has the vastness of the Wilderness Lodge, but it is not a rustic wood – but a more artistic, smooth-lined…drop dead gorgeous wood. If you expect the WL view, you’ll be disappointed – but if you enter not expecting anything – you’ll just stand there in awe! I fell in !
And then the best part of the week was about to happen – the first of many encounters with – now hold your hats! You’ll be surprised! Friendly cast members! Having 2 cast members in my Dfamily, I can say – WDW has their share of friendly cms, but DL has an entire community of them! We were so impressed with check-in (DD was in disbelief)! The lobby has cms doing everything – always cleaning – one who just walks around the lobby saying hello to people, offering insights and advice – and then of course the usual guest services – concierge staff and dvc salesman. But not one of them had a frown; not one of them was rude! It was heaven!
We checked in and were given our room keys (not chargeable – but that’s to change within the next year the cm said). The 3 adults were given a separate paper for charging privileges. (We ended up using it only a few times - it wasn't as convienent as a charging room key. We decided to buy the DL gift cards and used them instead. They were quick and easy well except the first time. Let me stop, I'm getting ahead of myself!) We were given fast passes to Aladdin, Grizzly Run and Soarin’. But our room wasn’t ready. So we decided to have some lunch and figure out what we would do for the afternoon.
Up next: Now how far is it to DD so we can grab a bite to eat?
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09-26-2005, 04:07 PM
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Dopey's biggest fan!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: China Spring, TX
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Posts: 26,975
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Re: Day 1- Part 1: Ohhh, Ahhh, Shiny!
Great start!!! I was just at DL in June and am excited to read about everything!!!
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09-26-2005, 04:39 PM
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Community Rank: Trekker
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Columbus Ohio USA
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Re: Day 1- Part 1: Ohhh, Ahhh, Shiny!
Funny thing about California, it isn't really that hot, except down near San Diego and the ocean is FREEZING, even in August we say people in wet suits.
I can hardly wait to read more!
Suzie
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09-26-2005, 07:18 PM
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Community Rank: Adventurer
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: WI
Posts: 912
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Re: Day 1- Part 1: Ohhh, Ahhh, Shiny!
Can't wait to read more!
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09-27-2005, 09:06 AM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Louisville, KY
Concierge Level: 7
Posts: 18,767
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Re: Day 1- Part 1: Ohhh, Ahhh, Shiny!
Can't wait to read more!! I am soaking up all the info I can on DL!!
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09-27-2005, 10:37 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: New York
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 7,960
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Re: Day 1- Part 1: Ohhh, Ahhh, Shiny!
Great start! Your report is taking me back to my DL trip last month. Hurry back with more, please!
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09-27-2005, 12:30 PM
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Community Rank: Trekker
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Near Seattle, WA
Posts: 1,183
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Re: Day 1- Part 1: Ohhh, Ahhh, Shiny!
Wonderful beginning!
Can't wait to hear all about your adventure!
Tina
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09-27-2005, 05:20 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: SW MO
Concierge Level: 1
Posts: 10,461
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Re: Day 1- Part 1: Ohhh, Ahhh, Shiny!
Ok, you snagged me. I wasn't going to read because I've never been and am not planning on going to DL but this is too good. More please
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09-27-2005, 05:49 PM
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Community Rank: Adventurer
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Central Virginia
Posts: 569
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Re: Day 1- Part 1: Ohhh, Ahhh, Shiny!
I leave in 16 days, so I am waiting on bated breath for the rest!
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09-28-2005, 05:35 AM
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RED SOX NATION!!
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Connecticut
Concierge Level: 9
Posts: 136,854
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Re: Day 1- Part 1: Ohhh, Ahhh, Shiny!
Great start Diz More please
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09-28-2005, 09:36 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: In the state of Disney Dreaming!
Concierge Level: 6
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Re: Day 1- Part 2: Ohhh, Ahhh, Shiny!
Day 1: Part 2
I’ll try not to split my days up anymore – but this first day was such a day of new beginnings. I was looking forward to going to DL for the very first time. I wanted to soak it all in. I’ll have to do 3 Parts because of my ramblings – sorry!
We were sitting in the absolutely amazing lobby of the GCH deciding where to go and eat lunch when DD and I looked at each other and said – the gift shop! That’s right, there’s nothing more bonding than a mother and daughter shopping! We went in the store – it is small, but it has some really nice treasures. Need a wedding ring? For $1,500 you can buy a Jose Hess Collection piece – gold band with a Mickey icon in diamonds. Absolutely gorgeous! Lots of GCH merchandise and 50th Anniversary items. Even though it was a very small place, there were always at least 3 cms on duty to help – and help they did. They were always ready to answer questions and give advice. We didn’t buy anything this round – but when you have no room, it makes it easier to say let’s wait.
We were new to this GCH and thought, just how far is it to DD so we can grab a bite to eat? We didn’t even have to ask a cm for directions – the hotel is guest friendly. There were signs leading you to CA, DL, DD and more! Just look up and you’re guided along the way. Now if I was going to DD from the WL it would take at least 20 minutes to drive there. From GCH to DD, it took us about 2 minutes to walk! Now, we’re talking! Shopping at our finger tips! The World of Disney right outside our hotel door! What more can you ask for?! (Well to be a millionaire would be nice!)
If there was one word I would use to describe DD, it would have to be festive. The first thing you notice is music – everywhere! It’s piped in, but it keeps you upbeat. It’s now about 1 pm and we were hungry. We thought of Rainforest Café, but decided we wanted to try something different. It is after all our first meal in CA. We walked from one end of DD to the other – saw the DL Hotel, Paradise Pier, a huge ESPN Zone. The guys wanted to go there, but we swayed them away to try something new. We decided on Mexican. We are, after all so very close to Mexico! (Closest we’ve ever been at least!) So we go into Tortilla Jo’s. And real Mexican culinary fare it was. The tortillas were hand-made right before your very eyes at the tortilla station. This isn’t a place you can go and get appetizers at a cheaper price. The appetizers cost around $8-$10 each. You had regular menu items for that cost. The most expensive item was $18.50 for the catch of the day. My Dteens tried Picadillo Tacos (beef and potatoes) 2 for $7.50; Carne Asada Tacos (grilled steak) 2 for $7.50 – but they weren’t overly impressed and DS#1 absolutely hated his so I shared with him; DH tried a rib platter $14.50 that he thought was out of this world; I had a steak fajita $16.50 that was delicious. Just a note: This is not a quick place so don’t go if you’re rushed. The food is cooked to order, not sitting out under warming lights waiting to be placed on plates. The service was interesting. Those on staff this day looked like Cabana boys. Lots of smiles and I thought at any given moment they were going to dance and sing. It was a good lunch – lots of food, but my Dteens weren’t impressed. I guess in a few years when they can drink margaritas they’ll want to give it another try.
Now came decision time. Which park would we go to first? Of course, the original – DL! We decided to go and get a feel for the place and then we’d go back to see our room later.
Entering DL, we reminded ourselves that everyone said the place is small so don’t think we’re at WDW. When you enter the turnstiles, you look up, slightly to see the railroad station. Yup, it’s small. In front was a flower arrangement for the 50th with a standing Mickey and a circle of flowers making a 50 on the ground. It was gorgeous! We looked up at the train entering the station and was surprised to see that the seating was like that of the Animal Kingdom’s Wildlife Express Train to Conservation Station. You face forward! Strange. It only surprised me because Walt loved trains so much!
Well enough dilly dallying – I have to see Main Street! We enter under the train on the right side and my first thought – where’s Tonys! The rocking chairs on the porch?! Oh that’s right, we’re not at WDW! We go onto Main Street and say, where’s the castle? Just kidding. We look up Main Street and there it is, Sleeping Beauty’s abode. Elegantly decorated with crowns for the 50th. And yes, small. All week I would look up Main Street and move my eyes to the sky to see the castle and at first all I’d see is clouds. I’d adjust my gaze down and finally there it was. It became rather funny because even though my mind said look low, my eyes always over shot!
First difference besides Tony’s missing was the activity! The crowd was light, but there was the Barbershop Quartet singing their tunes – the double decker bus, the fire-type mini-truck were out to transport you to the castle area. On slow days at WDW, you’re lucky if you see anything special on Main Street. Here at DL, it was bustling with live entertainment all over the place!
Second difference and a huge one! At WDW you have lines and lines of characters around the circle near City Hall - standing, waiting to give you a smile, a picture and an autograph. Not at DL! I started walking and all of a sudden, Dick Van Dyke, the chimney sweep, came running in front of me, holding onto a little guy's hand. They were on a mission! Then I turn and there's Mary Poppins, umbrella in one hand and a little girl on the other - strolling down the lane. Talk about fun! You never know who is going to run past you! It is like a charater party all over the park! This was just the start of a week filled with characters popping up in the most unusual places and times! I never knew who would be walking beside me!
We strolled up Main Street, but stopped ourselves from shopping. We stopped and looked at the castle. DS#2 was still upset we couldn’t eat dinner there. We walked around the castle, not through. We wanted to view Matterhorn – a must do ride for us all. We continue to just look around when my Dkids said, what are we going to ride first? We ended up back near It’s a Small World and their eyes filled with horror! Yup, mom chose It’s a Small World. After the ride DS#1 said, I can’t believe you chose this for our first ride at DL, shaking his head the whole time saying it! LOL! But the ride was the same, but different. Longer. The wait was normal, about 5 minutes. My Dkids decided they liked it better than WDW. DH hates the whole song thing so his vote doesn’t count.
Our next stop was back to Matterhorn. The wait was about 5 minutes again. DD and DS#2 sat up front, then DS#1, DH and I rode alone – but all of us were together on the same bobsled for our very first ride, which was . It is a bumpy ride! It is very though. We could feel the old-time DL magic begin to start!
For all of us who to plan, you’ll understand when I say – I had plans in mind for today; but so far, we went with the flow! I really didn’t think we would ride any rides this first day. I thought we’d spend the time around the hotel resting after our trip. So for tonight, I had planned something special! I wanted our first night to come off with a bang. So after Matterhorn, it was time to head back to GCH. We needed showers and to change.
My Dkids couldn't help but go through the stores on the way back down Main Street. What impressed me was the name on the store was the item sold inside. If it said watchmaker, there were watches inside. If it said penny arcade, there were penny games inside. That was very
Up Next: Just how many ticket stations are there at DL?!
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09-28-2005, 10:47 AM
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Community Rank: Traveler
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Attleboro, MA
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Re: Day 1- Part 2: Ohhh, Ahhh, Shiny!
more please!!
Beth
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09-28-2005, 12:10 PM
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RED SOX NATION!!
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Connecticut
Concierge Level: 9
Posts: 136,854
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Re: Day 1- Part 2: Ohhh, Ahhh, Shiny!
Another great update
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09-28-2005, 04:37 PM
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Community Rank: Traveler
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: On the Computer
Posts: 282
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Re: Day 1- Part 2: Ohhh, Ahhh, Shiny!
Wow, I really like the way you write this! (and the way you are doing your visit too!)
Out of curiosity, which side of the Matterhorn did you take? Did you take the Fantasyland side (the side that's more scenic), or the Tomarrowland side (the side that's more like a thrill ride)?
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09-28-2005, 10:11 PM
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Community Rank: Globetrotter
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: California
Posts: 3,878
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Re: Day 1- Part 2: Ohhh, Ahhh, Shiny!
Great report so far, waiting for more
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