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Old 01-17-2016, 05:22 PM   #1
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Norovirus--Did you ever wonder...

how they contain it and clean the ships?

I cruise a fair amount, at least twice a year, mostly on Disney and Royal Caribbean. I know that norovirus is essentially a stomach virus that is highly contagious. It is not contained to cruise ships. I doubt a cruise sets sail that doesn't have at least one person on board with this bug. The people bring it on the ship when they board.

On my last cruise a few weeks ago (Royal Caribbean) we had an outbreak. According to our server (who says "you didn't hear this from me") they always have 2-3 cases. We had "more than 50." The first announcements started coming about the second or third day of the cruise. At first it was heightened awareness of the hand sanitization at the dining venues. By the end of the cruise, all buffets were monitored and crew members served our plates. We didn't even pick up our own plates and silverware. It was handed to us by a crew member.

The day we left the ship, I took a picture of a check off list that was taped outside every stateroom on the ship. This is what they had to do to sanitize the ship before the next folks boarded, since our level of illness had exceeded some "magic" number according to CDC. Wow! I'm impressed and feel infinitely better about the measures they go to control it.

By the way, neither DH nor I got sick, nor did the large percentage of those onboard. After all, "over 50" out of 3300+ isn't really a large percentage. I certainly feel for those who did get sick though. What a miserable vacation! I also don't envy those waiting to board the ship for the next cruise. They could strip the rooms, but couldn't start the major sanitization until we were all off. We didn't disembark until 10:45 or so and we weren't the last group to leave!

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That is vicious stuff. I've never had it, but a cousin we'd planned to visit on our way home from WDW a year ago called and said not to come because she had it. She was very, very sick for about two weeks, she told me later.

I agree that it's reassuring Disney took all those precautions for such a small percentage of cases. However, in a restricted environment like a ship, they likely were very smart to be that scrupulous.
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That is vicious stuff. I've never had it, but a cousin we'd planned to visit on our way home from WDW a year ago called and said not to come because she had it. She was very, very sick for about two weeks, she told me later.

I agree that it's reassuring Disney took all those precautions for such a small percentage of cases. However, in a restricted environment like a ship, they likely were very smart to be that scrupulous.
Absolutely reassuring. I think a lot of it was CDC protocol based on the number of cases. They were very much on top of it.
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50 out of that many isn't bad but the reason why it's so highly contagious is that one person who has it touches something other people touch - tongs or utensils on a buffet line and then it can get transferred to the food too (how many times have we seen tongs thrown onto the food instead of resting at the edge of it?). Then other people come along and touch the same tongs and eat the same food. And no amount of keeping the food hot will kill the illness. Heat only kills bacteria. Yes, hand sanitizer will work but so does hot water and soap (and from Serve Safe training, you have to sing the Happy Birthday song twice for it to be an acceptable amount of time).
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50 out of that many isn't bad but the reason why it's so highly contagious is that one person who has it touches something other people touch - tongs or utensils on a buffet line and then it can get transferred to the food too (how many times have we seen tongs thrown onto the food instead of resting at the edge of it?). Then other people come along and touch the same tongs and eat the same food. And no amount of keeping the food hot will kill the illness. Heat only kills bacteria. Yes, hand sanitizer will work but so does hot water and soap (and from Serve Safe training, you have to sing the Happy Birthday song twice for it to be an acceptable amount of time).
You are so right. We were told over and over to wash our hands with soap and hot water, but, of course, they have no control over people actually doing that. Therefore, they had, not just the machines dispensing sanitizer, but crew members with hand held Purell at every entrance to the dining halls, stores, etc. They were everywhere strongly pushing us to use it both going in and out. Those who got sick were told to not to go to the medical facilities but call the doctor to come to them. They were essentially quarantined to their staterooms as far as I know, but, people being people, I'm sure some didn't adhere to that.
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I wish people would just wash their hands regularly. Many times I have seen someone leave the bathroom without washing their hands, sad to say it is usually older people. I work in a restaurant and I see every day customers coming in and just start eating food without going to the bathroom and washing their hands first. We work cafeteria style where they will get their food and then pay and people will start eating in line either chips or picking at their sandwiches and then get to the register and lick their fingers and hand me their money. Totally gross. Not only to me but I know they have not washed their hands before eating and licking their fingers. We never eat without washing our hands and thankfully none of us have ever gotten sick. Knock on wood.
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I'm relieved you guys didn't come down with it. Sadly, I can't see the checklist, as the photo isn't showing up, but I'm sure it's impressive.
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I'm relieved you guys didn't come down with it. Sadly, I can't see the checklist, as the photo isn't showing up, but I'm sure it's impressive.
Oops! It's there now! My mistake. I had ended up uploading 3 copies of the picture to photo bucket because it was acting so weird. So I went back and deleted 2 of the copies, including the one I had used to post here.
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