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Old 09-17-2012, 01:23 PM   #1
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Think my mom is a secret Toddlers & Tiaras fan...

So yesterday my mom got together with my aunts and some friends for a birthday party. She called me and said they were all asking why I didn't put Mary (my DD) into modeling. Apparently two of the women there had their grandchildren doing modeling for JC Penney, Sears, etc Ads and have a great college savings built up for them. I explained that it was my understanding you have to put out a lot of money upfront to ever try this and it's very time consuming so difficult to do when working full time.

Today, she is watching DD because DH has job interviews. She calls me and mentions she bought DD a makeup kit Every three year old needs makeup right? I don't even wear makeup, LOL! I'm thinking she means a child's kit but I still think she's a bit over the top.

I'm starting to think she has a secret obsession with Toddlers and Tiaras!
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Good luck with that. I personally disagree with these people who do things like Toddlers and Tiaras - kids need to be kids, not look like a teenager at age 5.
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I agree Darlene! And to be honest, I don't see her sitting still long enough for a photoshoot anyway!
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DD Jaclyn did a commercial when she was 2. DH saw an ad in the Record American (26 years ago) looking for older babies (able to walk/run...follow directions) up to 27 months. We had to go into Boston for the interview...it was July/August and very hot. When we arrived DD and I were sweaty, flushed and wrinkled....I didn't take a change of clothes with me. I just didn't think of it. Well..........there were moms there with TRUNKS of clothing....including make-up and all sorts of hair "needs" including headbands with little bits of hair attached....FOR BABIES. It was a DIAPER commercial, anyway. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I felt like what am I doing here...I felt out of place and "put down" by the looks we were getting. Well.......the "babies" had to be put behind a screen (away from the sight of their mother) and given "commands" to see if they were able to follow instructions...Lots of babies cried and didn't get to the next step. Next the babies had to leave the room (away from the mother). DD completed both steps and we were told that we might get a "call back" later after more auditions were completed. We were going on vacation to York, ME the next day so I gave my mom's phone number just in case. As I said DD looked a mess.....sweaty and flushed from the heat, so I didn't expect a call back. We did get the call back 2 days later and had to leave our vacation to begin filming. If I remember correctly it took 2 days to film the 30 second commercial. We had to be there early for breakfast....they did stage work .....scheduled 2 nap/rest times for the babies....lunch was also provided. The babies each had a nannie who stayed with them when the moms couldn't be with them on stage. We were never allowed out of our "lounge" to watch. It is something I wouldn't want to do over and over. She did make a good amount and we didn't have to pay for anything. At the time......you were allowed to make 1 commercial without being required to join the screen actors guild. It was fun and a great experience, but she and I had no desire to do it again.
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I wouldn't choose to introduce make-up to my 3 year old, but to each their own. As far as commercials and modelling, I'm not a fan of that either, but if the child enjoys doing it, then I say go for it.
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Very interesting story MaryLou!

I work full-time and wouldn't be able to take time off with short notice. I know my mom is trying to think of her best interests but I don't think she has a clue what it would entail. I figure if she keeps up with asking I'll tell her if she'd like to pay for the photos and take her to the photoshoots, she can try it once to see how my DD likes it. My guess is that will get her to back down.

The makeup my mom got her is a child's kit but even children's makeup has ages on the package that it is intended for older children, ages 6 and up. So I put it away at home. I don't need her sticking eye shadow IN her eyes. I just don't think kids so young should be playing with and esp not sharing makeup. It'll get them all sick with conjunctivitis. She has chapstick I let her put on that she calls lipstick, LOL... my mom calls me a stick in the mud!
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I watch the show. I don't have kids... I might feel different if I did. Some of those moms are down right nasty.

If it were my child and my mom I would say something like, "Mom, come on do you REALLY think she needs make-up to look prettier?"
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I'm sorry, but make-up for a 3 year old???
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I'm sorry, but make-up for a 3 year old???
EXACTLY!!!!
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I watch the show. I don't have kids... I might feel different if I did. Some of those moms are down right nasty.

If it were my child and my mom I would say something like, "Mom, come on do you REALLY think she needs make-up to look prettier?"
Love this! Thanks for the tip
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I think my BIL had the right idea when our niece (then about 6 or 7) mentioned she'd like a makeup kit as a birthday gift. BIL said please don't buy her anything like that, not even the pretend makeup. He said they wanted her to learn that a good self-image does not come from clothes and makeup.

As he put it, "She can play with Barbie, but we're not letting her BE Barbie."

Smart, I thought.
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My kids were in a couple of local commercials when they were little because their dad is "in the industry". They were "freebies" I asked them if they wanted to do it and they did. I'm talking on the cheap, cable commercials. The kids had fun and the shoots were short. My oldest son was asked to go into Boston for one of those agencies and try out for a 'real' commercial. He was picked for one bigger ad and was paid by savings bond because he was not in the union. He had fun that day too, but didn't want to do it again. All I remember was he was one of a couple boys who ran down stairs to go out and play soccer and the 'mom' had to stop them in the kitchen for what ever the product was. Obviously it did not make a big impression on me! I know we received a video tape copy of it... hmm...
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