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I was in Caribou Coffee today and they had this cute garland of felt coffee cups personalized for each of the employees. I commented on how cute it was and the manager told me that one of the employees made it. She said that last year they had stockings but "corporate complained" that they made customers uncomfortable.
Can someone explain how a company that sells "Ho Ho Mochas" and "Fa La Lattes" can find stockings unacceptable?
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I don't know the actual reasoning, but one possibility is that while "Ho Ho Mocha" and "Fa La Lattes" use phrases vaguely indicative of Christmas, stockings are an overt declaration of an impending visit from Santa. For customers who don't expect Santa to visit (that is, those who don't celebrate Christmas) seeing a row of stockings could be off-putting. Even more, employees who don't celebrate Christmas might feel uncomfortable.
As someone who doesn't celebrate Christmas, I have no problem with tinsel, wreaths, and even trees decorated with colored balls and other ornaments, because they seem to relate more to brightening up the winter darkness than to the specific meaning of Christmas. I don't even mind decorations or background music that involve Santa, reindeer, and elves, because they have become secular symbols of the season. However, stockings are personal -- they show that specific people expect to have them filled, and I'm not one of those people. Would seeing stockings for employees be enough to make me stop patronizing a business? No, definitely not. Would I be more comfortable in a place that didn't have personalized stockings? Probably yes. Would I prefer to work in a place that didn't give me a stocking? Definitely yes.
As I said, I have no idea if this was really the rationale, but it does sort of make sense to me.
It seems weird to me. One of the local businesses we frequent has a menorah on display during Hanukkah. I think it's lovely and it would never occur to me to complain about it.
Having a display of faith or belief is completely different, IMO, from forcing those beliefs on someone. If you don't like the display, don't support the business with your dollars.
Everyone is going to be offended by something, somewhere. I think some people go around looking for things to be offended by, quite honestly.
political correctness has gone to far. religion or lack of it should be able to tolerate a stocking. I don't think Budda , Abraham, Jesus, Zeus, Venus or Mother Nature even wore them
You know...there are an awful lot of things that people do or say that make me uncomfortable, but I don't see anyone changing their behaviors or things they display to suit my tastes. If someone doesn't celebrate a particular holiday that is their choice, but why should the people that do be unable to enjoy or display their holiday cheer/decorations because of it? Last time I checked I defended a FREE country where freedom of expression is guaranteed to EVERYONE in the First Amendment, regardless if that expression makes someone uncomfortable. Yes, there are words and phrases that we should not use out of respect for dignity of the human race, but that is my only limitation.
I am not trying to say everyone has to believe in the same things, I am saying we all get way to wrapped around the axle trying to be politically correct so as not to offend anyone or make anyone uncomfortable...which means we have effectively thrown the First Amendment out the window.
I see the other point of view, I can respect (and I defend)the right to hold it, but it isn't for me.
You know...there are an awful lot of things that people do or say that make me uncomfortable, but I don't see anyone changing their behaviors or things they display to suit my tastes. If someone doesn't celebrate a particular holiday that is their choice, but why should the people that do be unable to enjoy or display their holiday cheer/decorations because of it? Last time I checked I defended a FREE country where freedom of expression is guaranteed to EVERYONE in the First Amendment, regardless if that expression makes someone uncomfortable. Yes, there are words and phrases that we should not use out of respect for dignity of the human race, but that is my only limitation.
I am not trying to say everyone has to believe in the same things, I am saying we all get way to wrapped around the axle trying to be politically correct so as not to offend anyone or make anyone uncomfortable...which means we have effectively thrown the First Amendment out the window.
I see the other point of view, I can respect (and I defend)the right to hold it, but it isn't for me.
You know...there are an awful lot of things that people do or say that make me uncomfortable, but I don't see anyone changing their behaviors or things they display to suit my tastes. If someone doesn't celebrate a particular holiday that is their choice, but why should the people that do be unable to enjoy or display their holiday cheer/decorations because of it? Last time I checked I defended a FREE country where freedom of expression is guaranteed to EVERYONE in the First Amendment, regardless if that expression makes someone uncomfortable. Yes, there are words and phrases that we should not use out of respect for dignity of the human race, but that is my only limitation.
I am not trying to say everyone has to believe in the same things, I am saying we all get way to wrapped around the axle trying to be politically correct so as not to offend anyone or make anyone uncomfortable...which means we have effectively thrown the First Amendment out the window.
I see the other point of view, I can respect (and I defend)the right to hold it, but it isn't for me.
So stockings are offensive, but it's still totally okay to play "Here Comes Santa Claus" in the background and drink something called a "Ho Ho Mocha," even though I'm pretty sure no one else uses that term, but Santa?
Clear as mud. :-) I understand keeping things holiday neutral...I'm just failing to see some of the logic on this particular topic.
You know...there are an awful lot of things that people do or say that make me uncomfortable, but I don't see anyone changing their behaviors or things they display to suit my tastes. If someone doesn't celebrate a particular holiday that is their choice, but why should the people that do be unable to enjoy or display their holiday cheer/decorations because of it? Last time I checked I defended a FREE country where freedom of expression is guaranteed to EVERYONE in the First Amendment, regardless if that expression makes someone uncomfortable. Yes, there are words and phrases that we should not use out of respect for dignity of the human race, but that is my only limitation.
I am not trying to say everyone has to believe in the same things, I am saying we all get way to wrapped around the axle trying to be politically correct so as not to offend anyone or make anyone uncomfortable...which means we have effectively thrown the First Amendment out the window.
I see the other point of view, I can respect (and I defend)the right to hold it, but it isn't for me.
I don't know if this happens in any of the establishments you frequent, but in many of the local bars employees put up stocking as a way for regulars to leave them christmas presents--ie an extra holiday tip. Perhaps Coffee Corporate was afraid thats what they were for!
When I had a Staff of abot 15 people I put up small stockings around my office window which looked out on the kitchen. Each Stocking had the name of the staff person who worked for me currently and they were all filled exactly the same .. lottery ticket, candy, etc. A woman who had worked for me til June and the switced to another Section with in our Building came to me and asked me why had I had not included her since she had worked for me til the end of May. I explained that she no longer worked for me and worked for someone else now. But the interesting part was that she was from a country & a religion that did not even celebrate Christmas. But she was disappointed to not get a Christmas stocking. It showed me that most people want to be a part of a celebration, even when they don't celebrate it themselves. Had she worked for me still I would have included her with the stocking, much the same way that co workers who celebrate Ramadam would invite me to their home for the feast at the end of it. People who brought in foods or holiday expereinces that were from their culture or religion. I love hearing about or being asked to share in someone elses holiday cheer. Its too bad about the stockings, but I love the coffeecup Idea.
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