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Old 03-30-2009, 02:14 PM   #1
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Wonder may be moving to Los Angeles

FYI: Disney Cruise Line to Homeport Disney Wonder at the Port of Los Angeles | StitchKingdom.com
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Old 03-30-2009, 02:43 PM   #2
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Another Repo in 2011! I'm starting to save for it today.
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Old 03-30-2009, 02:59 PM   #3
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Well, the 2009 DCL Guide is at the printer, so it's too late to convert my prognostications in "The Future of the Disney Cruise Line" section from speculation to confirmed fact. I did put my money down on it being Los Angeles rather than San Diego (but that was a safe bet), and figured it would be the Wonder, rather than the Magic.
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Disney Wonder Getting New Home at Port of Los Angeles
Cruise Ship Will Arrive for Extended West Coast Stay in 2011
Disney Cruise Line® has announced plans to reposition the Disney Wonder® Cruise Ship from its base in Port Canaveral, Fla., to the West Coast in 2011.

A two-year agreement, with a three-year extension option, will be considered by the Port of Los Angeles Board of Harbor Commissioners on April 2, 2009.

With the port's proximity to the Disneyland® Resort, guests even more magical Disney vacation choices - both on land and sea!

The addition of a new homeport for Disney Cruise Line is part of the overall expansion plan for The Walt Disney Company. Two new ships, Disney Dream and Disney Fantasy, will arrive in Port Canaveral, Fla., in 2011 and 2012, respectively
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That could make a very nice Disney Cruise / Disneyland visit
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Yep. It would have been silly for them to choose the San Diego port. There's much more potential for land/sea bookings with the LA port. I can hear the cash registers ringing now...Ka-Chinnnnng!
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So, do you all think that the Magic will take over the Bahama cruises????
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For the first year, I think the Dream will have the Bahamas and Magic will stay with the 7-night itineraries. Usually, shorter itineraries are easier to sell than longer itineraries, and in Disney's case, they can still turn a bunch of those 3- and 4-night cruises into 7-night Land/Sea itineraries.

One way to look at it is, the Magic's 7-night itineraries are good for about 850 7-night vacations a week. The Wonder's good for up to 1700 7-night vacations (if everyone does Land/Sea). The Dream on the 7-night itineraries would be good for 1250 7-night vacations, but on the Bahamas run, up to 2500 7-night vacations.

All this goes out the window when the Fantasy arrives. I'm figuring it'll replace the Magic on the 7-night itineraries. Maybe the Magic will go out of service immediately for a complete make-over, maybe not. One way or the other, I expect the Magic will be doing something other than the traditional 7-nighters. The Western seems to be substantially more popular than the Eastern, so maybe the Fantasy does Westerns every week, while the Magic does Easterns - maybe even longer Eastern itineraries, alternating 10- and 11-nighters, for example - and special itineraries like Europe, South America, etc.
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As a resident of L.A. I am Very happy to hear that!
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As a DVC member, I can only say With two new DVC resorts in DL Anaheim and Hawaii (which will open in 2011 if everything goes as planned), that's a West Coast/Hawaii combo trip waiting to happen! Yay!

Dave, I'd love for Disney to offer 10- or 11-night Eastern Caribbean cruises. Sign me up!
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