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Old 12-01-2008, 11:46 PM   #1
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Stop giving birthday presents

My family has given birthday presents to all the nieces and nephews since they were babies.

My question is, when should the presents stop being given and a card just sent? I don't remember my aunts and uncles sending me presents when I was a young adult.

Is 21 a good stopping point? It may seem silly to think of this, but should I really give a 25 year old a gift card for their birthday? They may be married by then (gasp!).

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No help here. My family does birthdays and presents until you die. I just gave my aunt her belated birthday gift at Thanksgiving and I'll be getting birthday gifts for my birthday (Dec. 20th) and Christmas.
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My family has given birthday presents to all the nieces and nephews since they were babies.

My question is, when should the presents stop being given and a card just sent? I don't remember my aunts and uncles sending me presents when I was a young adult.

Is 21 a good stopping point? It may seem silly to think of this, but should I really give a 25 year old a gift card for their birthday? They may be married by then (gasp!).

Answers, anyone? Thanks!
Not sure how to answer that one. Sometimes the $$ is not the problem as much as the burden of all that shopping! Whew! Holidays can be a nightmare, too! Ba humbug!
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My aunts and uncles stopped sending me gifts/gift certs. when I stopped having kiddie parties around when I was 11. Except for my Aunt Joanne and her husband whose anniversary is on my birthday and my Uncle Gene whose birthday I share. They both still send cards. Only cards. (My parents still drop off cards full of money, though, but only because they know I'm going to spend it on something fun for Walt, DJ, and I. )
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My mom and dad give me $$$ and my sister gives me a gift. The rest of my family stopped giving me gifts when I turned 18, but, they still send cards. Works for me.
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We've been having that same debate in DH's family and we've all agreed on 21 being the cut off date.
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I can't remember when the last time an Aunt gave me a b-day present. Gosh had to be in HS 20+ yrs ago.
Now, DH has an Aunt that will give all of us Christmas checks. (very modest amounts).
I still send my 19yo step-sister a card with like $15 - $20 check or starbucks card in it for her birthday. But that will stop in a year of so, probably when she gets out of college.
But if she weren't in college she would probably just get a card.
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We've always stopped at the point of graduation from high school or college. Not parents of course but for extended family.
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I think 18 is appropriate . . . maybe keep going if they are in college full-time until they graduate . . . but definitely 18 if they have a job!
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I actually don't remember ever getting birthday gifts from aunts and uncles.

Our generation does give gifts to the nieces and nephews (on my side of the family). I guess we better start thinking about this as well.
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My Aunts and Uncles, except for a few I was really close with, never really gave birthday gifts...but when you consider my mom has 11 brothers and sisters, and most of them have at least 2 kids...I can't really blame them. We send gifts to our nieces and nephew...they are all very young...will probably just get cards once they hit high school...mostly because who knows what teens like...

I don't want to be the Aunt from A Christmas Story who sends ralphie a pink bunny suit...know what I mean?
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I think 18 is a good stopping age, except if you have a special relationship with your niece or nephew. My niece is my godchild and instead of giving her a gift for her birthday we go out for lunch...
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So much of this depends on how large your family is and how close you are to everyone. I've never felt like giving gifts should be an obligation - or even sending cards, for that matter.

And (we've run into this a lot in our family) - how often do the ones you send cards/gifts to return the favor and remember YOU on your birthday? Not that we give to receive, but I have seen so many young people raised to believe that adults are there to give them things - but they have no idea how to do the same or at least appreciate the gesture. (Can you tell this is a hot issue on my DH's side of the family?)

Just some thoughts....
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The cut off for all of us kids was 18. You would still receive a card just no money or gift. At that point you were considered an adult, so you were cut off at the knees!

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I would think between 18 and 21!
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