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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
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We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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03-12-2007, 02:52 PM
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A Walt Disney World Veteran's First Trip To Disneyland
by Richard Mercer, Guest Columnist
Like many baby boomers, I grew up watching Walt Disney on TV telling the country about Disneyland. But it was a distant, impossible dream. Our family didn't have the money for that kind of vacation. So when a colleague suggested last year that I should come with her to a conference in California to help make a presentation, my eyes lit up and I immediately started conspiring to visit Disneyland as part of that trip. I made arrangements to stay at Disneyland two nights prior to the conference.
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03-12-2007, 02:55 PM
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Approaching the entrance to Disneyland is a very difference experience from Walt Disney World. After checking into the Howard Johnson hotel right across the street, I started walking down Harbor Boulevard toward the entrance. The only hint of Disneyland was Space Mountain peeking over the wall on the other side of the street. Across the street was a simple sign arching over the walkway that said "Disneyland" in blue letters. I walked under the sign, past the bus drop-off area and into a concrete courtyard. Only a few minutes after leaving my room I was at the gates of Disneyland bearing my park hopper pass.
I entered Disneyland at 1:00 pm on Wednesday. I stayed until closing (8:00 pm) that day, came back at 9:00 am on Thursday (early entry) and again stayed until closing. In a day and a half, 18 hours of park time, I did nearly everything I wanted to do in both Disneyland and Disney's California Adventure!
Not that I necessarily recommend this. Folks, don't try this at home. Or at Disneyland! This was done under ideal conditions by an experienced commando tourist alone from opening to closing, during one of the least crowded times of the year, on weekdays with excellent weather conditions. At Disneyland, the difference between weekday and weekend crowds is much greater than it is at Walt Disney World. For a family trip, plan at least three days for the Disneyland Resort. In addition to the two parks, there is also a small Downtown Disney district and three official Disney hotels.
Rather than reporting my experience in excruciating detail, I will answer some questions I think other Disney World veterans might have.
Q: Is January a good time to go?
A: Yes! The weather was perfect from my point of view, varying between 50° and 75° with low humidity and no rain! (This is after all!) The parks were marvelously un-crowded. I even started recognizing people by the end of the day. I only stood in two significant lines, for Matterhorn Bobsleds and Autopia, each about 20-25 minutes. Everything else was a walk-on or short wait.
A disadvantage was that unlike at Walt Disney World, there is very little evening entertainment on weekdays during slow season. There was only the Parade of Dreams at the Disneyland park. No fireworks, no Fantasmic!, and (sob!) no Electrical Parade.
Q: What's the best attraction that isn't at Walt Disney World?
A: I would say "Disney's Aladdin -- A Musical Spectacular," a stage show at Disney's California Adventure. A large well-appointed new theater, excellent staging and special effects, and a talented cast result in a show as good as the shows on Disney Cruise Line. The only stage show at Walt Disney World that even comes close is the newly-opened Finding Nemo show at Animal Kingdom. I loved them both and it's great to see live shows making a comeback at Disney resorts. But in a head-to-head comparison Aladdin seems to be the clear winner.
Honorable mention goes to California Screamin'at Disney's California Adventure, and Indiana Jones Adventure at Disneyland park.
Q: Is there any compelling reason for those living far away to visit Disneyland Resort rather than Walt Disney World?
A: This is a matter of personal preference, but I would say no, not as far as attractions are concerned. Of the 20+ unique attractions at Disneyland, the only headliners are the three mentioned in the previous answer, plus Matterhorn Bobsleds.
Here are some possible reasons for those from the Eastern US to visit Disneyland Resort:
You want to experience as many different Disney parks as you can.
You want to make a pilgrimage to the source of the magic, "where it all began."
You're going to Los Angeles anyway, so why not? All three of these applied to me!
Q: What was better, what was worse, what was a surprise or disappointment?
Better: Park entry -- they just scan the bar code on your pass. Pirates of the Caribbean, Winnie the Pooh, and ToonTown are better at Disneyland. Autopia is better than Tomorrowland Speedway. Park-to-park transportation is much better -- it's a 100-yard walk!
Worse: Mulholland Madness is just a version of Primeval Whirl but it doesn't spin. Buzz Lightyear Astro Blasters has fewer targets but at least you can tell when you've hit them. "Disneyland -- The First 50 Magical Years" is worth seeing if you have the time, but "One Man's Dream" at the Disney-MGM Studios is much better.
Surprises: The Disneyland Railroad goes through a covered section with a large dinosaur display ["Primeval World," which is satirized/honored as "Primeval Whirl" at Disney's Animal Kingdom's Chester and Hester's Dino-Rama - Ed.]! Space Mountain has side-by-side seating and a very different track than at Walt Disney World; it has only one small drop and a smoother ride. The film about California, Golden Dreams, is somewhat like the movies in World Showcase, but better and longer. I watched a session of the Jedi Academy, which was a real treat for a Star Wars fan.
Disappointments: The Main Street Electrical Parade was not running at the time I was there. There is no Tomorrowland Transit Authority ("people mover") in Tomorrowland. Matterhorn Bobsleds was awkward to ride; you tend to slide around in the plastic seat and the restraint didn't feel adequate.
Q: What was the strangest experience you had at Disneyland Resort?
A: FASTPASSŪ! I only got two, and both times I had to ask for help. To avoid the problems I had, you need to know two things. Disneyland FASTPASSŪ machines don't pull your pass in like the ones at Walt Disney World. And they expect you to put in your park pass with the magnetic stripe up. (Unlike the rest of the world where the stripe goes down.)
Q: Does Disneyland "feel" the same as Walt Disney World? Does it have the same "magic"?
A: Inside Disneyland Park itself the answer is yes. There you are in pretty much familiar territory, and the magic is still there. Some have suggested that Disneyland cast members are less "magical" than those in Walt Disney World. Upon reflection that may have been true, but the difference was minor and didn't affect my enjoyment. If there is a difference, it is balanced by the intimacy of a smaller park, and the realization that this is Where It All Began.
On the other hand California Adventure has an entirely different feel to it than anywhere in Disney World. The Hollywood Pictures Backlot area does feel somewhat like a small, through-the-looking-glass version of Disney-MGM Studios, but the rest of it is ...different. It feels like it was assembled from random parts. Nevertheless, I had a good time, spending nearly half of my park time there exploring this "part-Disney and part-something-new" park. "Adventure" really is the right word for it.
Q: Are you going back?
A: Someday ... But it's hard to justify taking the whole family when Walt Disney World is bigger and closer!
[Going to Disneyland? Check out our award-winning PassPorter's Disneyland Resort and Southern California Attractions guidebook!]
About the Author: Richard Mercer is a veteran of 11 Walt Disney World trips, three Disney cruises, four MouseFests, and now one trip to Disneyland! In "real life" he is a mathematics professor at Wright State University in the Dayton area.
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03-20-2007, 07:57 PM
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Community Rank: Passenger
Join Date: Mar 2007
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I went to Disneyland for the first and only time around 10 years ago and I am looking forward to going back this year. My understanding is that nearly everything has changed save a handful of rides and a whole new park.
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