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What a video! You got to watch that first step!! I can't imagine that was good for the arch, though. I would assume there were no park rangers around at the time.
Thursday 15 September – part six: well, which way do I go now?
The road ends at the Devil’s Garden trail head and, once again, everyone had descended on this area, and the parking was just packed. Mark very kindly told me that he’d drop me off at the entrance, so that, in his words “at least one of us gets to see it” and I set off, as he set off in search of a parking space.
I started off, getting photos and video on the way, but when I came to a fork in the trail, I realised I could realistically go no further, as Mark would have no idea which way I’d gone, if he did get a parking space and was able to follow me. Once again, in the distance, I was able to see an arch, so I got some photos of that and sadly headed back. I had high hopes for this place, especially reading about how many arches were here, yet I’d barely seen any. Don’t get me wrong, this park was still a delight, it just wasn’t what I was expecting. :
I found Mark at the trail entrance, having managed to find a parking spot, after a Californian driver had cut him up and taken the first parking spot he was trying to get in. I have to say here that we noticed a couple of trends during the road trip portion of this vacation. Firstly, there were an amazing amount of Californian plates at all the places we visited and secondly, very often, they were the culprits of some of the worst driving that we saw. I don’t know if we were just unlucky or whether this is something that others have found?
On that subject, we also played licence plate bingo, after having been amazed by the sheer variety of states that we spotted in Yellowstone. You might think that getting some of the southern states would be tough – not at all! : It was actually the northeastern states that we were left without sightings of by now, along with Hawaii and Mississippi. Oddly enough, we never expected to see a plate from Hawaii but what is it with Mississippi? Are they just home lovers?
Mark also spotted this unusual fellow as he walked over to meet me:
We started to make our way back through the park, and when we reached the viewing area for the Skyline Arch, this time it was deserted, so we were able to park up and head a little way up the trail to get some great photos of it.
From here, we headed back through the park to the visitor centre, with me getting as many photos as I could on the way back.
As we arrived at the visitor centre, I saw a coach arrive and start disgorging. I knew, from witnessing the same thing at Monument Valley, what would happen next. Nearly every female would be heading for the restrooms, so I got Mark to drop me off, while he parked up and I made it in time!
We asked about where the nearest gas stations were in the visitor centre and decided that we’d head back into Moab to the same place that we’d got our lunch from. They had told us that there was one gas station somewhere near the turn to Canyonlands, but they couldn’t guarantee it would be open and we only had a range of 100 miles, with Canyonlands 30 miles away.
I would never have expected the park to be as busy as you found it! You got some beautiful shots of the arches you did get to see and the ones of you and Mark are really nice.
Caught back up after a few missed days - loving the pictures of Arches, more than Bryce I think. Glad you were able to get closer to some of them! Crazy how crowded it is, and I agree it seems it might be insane in the peak tourist times.
I am amazed at how busy these places are. But it is still all so beautiful. I am sure my family would be complaining about seeing another "rick". LOL! But evry picture you have shown is just wonderful and keeps me wanting more. Also the size of everything is so big...You don't get that till you see a few people in the picture.
I am amazed at how busy these places are. But it is still all so beautiful. I am sure my family would be complaining about seeing another "rick". LOL! But evry picture you have shown is just wonderful and keeps me wanting more. Also the size of everything is so big...You don't get that till you see a few people in the picture.
That's very true and that's why I tried to snap a few of those photos to put it in perspective.
Caught back up after a few missed days - loving the pictures of Arches, more than Bryce I think. Glad you were able to get closer to some of them! Crazy how crowded it is, and I agree it seems it might be insane in the peak tourist times.
Arches was one of my favourites, but I think the fact that it was so crowded meant that Bryce wins out over it for me.
Thursday 15 September – part seven: this is just like the Grand Canyon!
Once we were all filled up again, we headed back past Arches and took the 313 over to Canyonlands. It was at this point that I started to think maybe we’d done the wrong thing. Not only was the sky darkening over, but Mark was complaining about how dull the road was, which it was, although in fairness, there was some beautiful scenery again along the way.
By the time we reached the start of the park, I was really hoping that it would be worth it. Well, I can say with certainty that just a couple of miles down the road, it was. We first caught a glimpse of Shafer Canyon and I think both our jaws dropped in unison. As soon as we saw an overlook, we pulled over, so that we could admire it more fully. Wow, it was just like the Grand Canyon and, as someone we met later on, said “it puts it in more perspective” and it did.
It was then back in the car again...
We headed next for the Green River Overlook and we had no idea of the stunning sight that awaited us. It was as if the earth had been ripped in two beneath us. It’s just mind blowing to think that this was caused once upon a time by water and, yet today, you look down and the river doesn’t seem to be much of a force of nature. How things change!
Mark suggested heading up to Upheaval Dome next, but when we got there, it was a trailhead, rather than an overlook, so we headed back along the road.
We stopped at Holeman Spring Canyon overlook, where Mark got chatting to a couple who were artists and he told Mark that he paints three pictures a day! Now that’s what I call productive! He also said that every day here is different, as it depends on the weather.
Wow, I never expected Canyonland NP to have such amazing sights! To be honest, for some reason I didn't make the connection that there might be, um, canyons in CANYONland
Loving the Canyonlands pics! We will be staying 2 nights at either Canyonlands or Arches (camping). I had been planning to camp at Arches, just because it looked like that would be where we would focus our time.... but after hearing about the crowds... I'm not sure.... The plan is to camp both nights at one or the other and then just do a "day trip" to the other park..... I'm curious which park you think would be better to spend *more* time in/has more to see..... As I definately want to camp in whichever park we will spend the most time in.....
After having seen the Grand Canyon last summer, Canyonlands sure gives it a run for the money! It is just as amazing. I imagine the colors change daily depending on the weather. Must be fun to paint!
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I don’t know if we were just unlucky or whether this is something that others have found? 
but what is it with Mississippi? Are they just home lovers? 
Not only was the sky darkening over, but Mark was complaining about how dull the road was, which it was, although in fairness, there was some beautiful scenery again along the way. 
Amazing scenery! 
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