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07-08-2003, 09:00 AM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Louisiana/Mississippi
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Re: 2 Girls + 10 Days = Too Much Fun (6/12-6/22) Day 10 now up
Thanks for another update. I have a question how is Lucy going to keep this a secret trip with all the WDW you will have at home, when her family comes for a visit? Will your kids spill the beans and say mom got this when she went to WDW with your mom?
KIM
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07-08-2003, 09:05 AM
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Community Rank: Wayfarer
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Re: 2 Girls + 10 Days = Too Much Fun (6/12-6/22) Day 10 now up
I just wanted to say "Thanks!" for all the nice responses. It is good to know someone is actually reading this report. [img]graemlins/read.gif[/img]
I love to read TRs, and will now make sure I respond to each one. I didn't realize,until starting mine, just how much time and effort goes into one of these! Don't get me wrong, I am finding this great fun to write, it's just taking much longer than I expected. (Of course, I do tend to ramble... [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] )
Tikibird, Kimdisneynut, Tinkerbelly, DrDolphin, PS I Luv WDW, Mel & Richard, MrsM, and Llaffinplace - thanks so much for your positive feedback! I have enjoyed reading several of your reports as well. (I wouldn't know what to eat if it weren't for Larry! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] )
I hope to get my next post up tonight, but I am starting a new class (lots of homework) and will be traveling to Atlanta this weekend, so time is rather tight this week. Day 7 was terrific though, so I really want to get it done.
Again, I just wanted to say thank you for reading!
Stay tuned...
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07-08-2003, 10:49 AM
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#78
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Community Rank: Wayfarer
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Re: 2 Girls + 10 Days = Too Much Fun (6/12-6/22) Day 10 now up
Kim - good question! Actually, we discussed all that. Lucy and her DH are at our house quite frequently so this was definitely a concern.
The plan - tell him (if he even notices and/or asks)we went to a Disney outlet [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] !! Chances are that he won't even notice, but we are prepared.
Kris
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07-08-2003, 11:26 AM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Rock Creek, Ohio USA
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Re: 2 Girls + 10 Days = Too Much Fun (6/12-6/22) Day 10 now up
What an adventure!! Can't wait to read more!! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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07-08-2003, 01:57 PM
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Community Rank: Sightseer
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: UK
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Re: 2 Girls + 10 Days = Too Much Fun (6/12-6/22) Day 10 now up
What a great TR! I have really enjoyed reading it, thank you so much!
Karen
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07-08-2003, 02:11 PM
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Community Rank: Wayfarer
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Re: 2 Girls + 10 Days = Too Much Fun (6/12-6/22) Day 10 now up
Day 7 – Just how many Rum-runners does it take to get Kris and Lucy into trouble? [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]
I’m going to get this day posted, and I’ll post my Disney highlights a little later.
Thursday morning dawned beautiful and sunny! The rain had finally moved out – at least for a while…Lucy and I passed on the walk with the dogs this morning, as we’d managed to cover several miles at Disney!! Instead, we decided to hit the beach bright and early (well, around 9:30) to take advantage of the bright sun.
Bikinis, blankets, suntan oil/lotion, trashy beach novels, and cooler with our bottled water – we’re ready to go!! Today our plan was to go a little further north on Cocoa Beach and try that area out. There was a parking garage nearby that allowed us to park the car in the shade, thereby preventing a roasting interior when we decided to leave. The area we chose is right behind Ron Jon’s and the Cocoa Beach Surf Company.
Because it was relatively early when we arrived, the beach was not at all crowded! There were a few folks there – 3 guys with their Styrofoam cooler, and a couple of families, and of course, surfers. We chose our spot, threw down the blanket, lathered on the suntan oil and began to soak up the sun! [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img]
About half an hour later, the 3 guys with their Styrofoam cooler moved to within 10 feet of our blanket!! [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] What’s up with that?!? The beach is practically empty – there’s plenty of room. Well, let me just tell you – these guys were your basic “beach bums.” They were each probably in their late 40s – early 50s, and basically they lived on/around the beach. They didn’t talk to us – but they certainly made sure we could hear their conversation! Lucy and I were both lying on our stomachs and facing each other as we “listened” to their conversation.
First they began talking about how Park/Beach Security had no jurisdiction over them when they were actually on the beach – however, they could get in trouble once they hit the walkway and/or streets. Then it was one story after another about either an accident they’d been in where their eyeball had been left hanging out of its socket and miraculously repaired by the ER doc, or about how this guy knew some guy in St. Augustine that would put him up for nothing for as long as he’d like, all their boating and motorcycle adventures, etc. Then they started telling each other jokes – pathetic jokes!! [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] Not even funny!
After a while, they must have been running low on their beer supply and they were going to send one of the guys to get more. As the beer run guy got ready to go (we decided he was a “bum in training”), the other two told him all about how and where to find free ice (ice machine at the Comfort Inn – and exactly where it was located, yada, yada, yada.). The other two guys continued their conversation, this time talking about how to make “roses” out of a single palm frond. Apparently they do this and then sell them to folks on the beach – for beer money! And, also apparent, this is what the Park/Beach Security people were after them for.
Finally, “beer run boy” gets back with the goods, and it looks they are going to be there for quite a while. Lucy and I just rolled our eyes at each other, and were silently wondering if maybe we should relocate. We talked very quietly among ourselves and decided we would leave shortly. We sat up to have a smoke, and lo and behold, “beer run boy” walks over to ask if he can “buy” a cigarette from us! I gave him one of mine, and now the other two headed over. Yikes!! (Fortunately, there were more people on the beach by this time, so we weren’t really afraid – but now that they’d “made contact” with us,we were really ready to get out of there!)
One of the guys, who introduced himself as “Rooster,” handed Lucy and I each one of their famed “roses.” They did not ask us for money! (BTW - It’s really cool how they make them – they are quite pretty! I still have mine – it’s sitting on my desk at work) After the roses and the borrowed smoke, and after offering us each a beer (we declined, of course!) they finally returned to their area. Lucy and I waited about 10 minutes and then packed up our stuff and got the h*** out of there!
As we crossed over the walkway back to the road, I heard a woman’s voice calling, “Ma’am, ma’am!!” Lucy and I stopped and turned around to find a Beach/Park Security officer coming toward us! Uh, oh!! “Did we do something wrong?” I asked. “No, not at all,” she assured us. Turns out, they were working an undercover operation on these three guys and wanted to know if they had harassed us in any way, or tried to sell us anything. We told her that no, they hadn’t tried to sell us anything, nor had they harassed us, but they did make us uncomfortable. She sent us on our way with a thank you and a warning to be careful of them. Holy Cow!! Such adventure first thing in the am!! We’d better have a drink!! [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
We walked back to our car, looking over our shoulders constantly in case one of the “beach guys” were following us, and loaded up the car (nice and cool thanks to the shaded parking) and headed south to Coconuts on the Beach!
We arrived at Coconuts around noonish and grabbed a table out on the deck. A gorgeous day – although there were clouds to the west, the ocean breeze usually keeps them at bay. We decided to try one of their Rum-runners (since we’d enjoyed them so much at Disney) and we ordered a chicken ceasar wrap to share.
The drinks were delicious! [img]graemlins/yuma.gif[/img] We ordered a second round when our food came out! The wrap was also very yummy!! We ate our lunch, enjoyed our cocktails, and soaked up the sun! What a great afternoon! Our waitress came back and asked if we’d like another round – Lucy says “sure!” Now, we’re having our 3rd rum-runner! (BTW – I looked up rum-runner recipes when we returned to STL and boy, is there a lot of alcohol in them. Bacardi Black Label rum, Bacardi 151 rum, blackberry brandy, and crème de bananae, along with a bit of grenadine and lime juice! [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] )
The afternoon was turning out be just perfect! Lucy got up to use the restroom, and our waitress came back and asked if we were ready for another one! “Absolutely!” I said. Oh, man – number 4!! Lucy came back and asked where this last one came from – I told her I’d ordered them! We didn’t have anywhere to be, so we continued to soak up the rays until the ocean breeze could no longer keep the rain away! Ok, so we just picked up our drinks and moved under the overhang until it passed.
Up next – the saga continues…
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07-08-2003, 03:40 PM
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#82
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Community Rank: Scout
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: VERMONT
Posts: 4,201
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Re: 2 Girls + 10 Days = Too Much Fun (6/12-6/22) Day 10 now up
Loving your TR so far! Just the kind of thing we mommies dream of. You are so lucky!
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07-08-2003, 03:53 PM
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#83
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Community Rank: Wayfarer
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 173
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Re: 2 Girls + 10 Days = Too Much Fun (6/12-6/22) Day 10 now up
Thanks, TINKN! Yes, we were very lucky! We may not ever have another opportunity like this again, so we took total advantage of it! It was great! We were kind of like 2 middle-aged (not really - we're only in our mid-30s) women on "Spring Break"! It was great fun!
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07-08-2003, 10:13 PM
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#84
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Louisiana/Mississippi
Posts: 2,300
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Re: 2 Girls + 10 Days = Too Much Fun (6/12-6/22) Day 10 now up
Great Report
Thanks
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07-09-2003, 12:24 AM
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#85
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Community Rank: Trekker
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,574
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Re: 2 Girls + 10 Days = Too Much Fun (6/12-6/22) Day 10 now up
Thanks for posting more of the report! I loved reading about your mother's expensive sauerkraut! I can't believe you girls were able to get up and function after your night at PI.
Can't wait to read about Day 7 when you get a chance!
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07-09-2003, 12:48 AM
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RED SOX NATION!!
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Location: Connecticut
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Re: 2 Girls + 10 Days = Too Much Fun (6/12-6/22) Day 10 now up
Finally got thru your trip report Kris [img]graemlins/wavin.gif[/img] What a great job!! Thanks for taking the time to write it!! It is great!! Looking forward to the next installment (when you get to it!!)
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07-09-2003, 07:58 AM
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Community Rank: Trailblazer
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA , USA
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Re: 2 Girls + 10 Days = Too Much Fun (6/12-6/22) Day 10 now up
Glad you were able to escape the "Beach Boys." I would have been creeped out!
Looking forward to more... [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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07-09-2003, 10:01 PM
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Community Rank: Wayfarer
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Location: St. Louis, MO
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Re: 2 Girls + 10 Days = Too Much Fun (6/12-6/22) Day 10 now up
Day 7 – The saga continues…
Dear readers,
When last I left you, Lucy and I were indulging in an afternoon of cocktails at the beach…
The rain leaves us temporarily, and the sun comes out to shine once again. We pick up our belongings and move back out to a table in the sun. Our waitress comes by shortly to clear up our tab – her shift is over. She leaves our check with us: $58!! [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] Holy Cow!! $8 for the chicken wrap, and the balance is our cocktails! Yikes – this is turning out to be quite an expensive afternoon…and it ain’t over yet!
We settle our bill, adding a nice tip for our friendly server, and take our time finishing our drinks. Now, both Lucy and I are quite friendly by nature – we love to meet and talk to new people, so that is precisely what we begin to do. We strike up a conversation with the family sitting at a table nearby. They have two absolutely adorable children with them. The kids are going up onto the stage and pretending to be famous performers. They are singing and dancing and just cracking us up. Lucy and I both applaud them, and the little girl (she must have been about 4 years old) tells us she’s going to grow up to be a “rock star!” She even has a glitter design on her t-shirt! She is SO cute!! Lucy and I assure her that we’re convinced she’ll make a terrific rock star! Mom and Dad are just kind of rolling their eyes and hoping she grows out of this stage quickly – they don’t really want a little Britney Spears on their hands.
After this family leaves, we begin chatting with several other people around us, and pretty soon we have a whole “gathering” at several tables. Our group includes a few locals who are just “hanging out,” a couple who stopped by for lunch, and two German tourists who are just as fair-skinned as they can be.
A couple more rounds of cocktails are ordered and consumed. Lucy and I are having an especially fun time talking with the German tourists. They speak English extremely well – they have to because their jobs require them to deal with people in the US on a daily basis. They find some of our expressions and colloquialisms hard to understand, so we of course are happy to enlighten them. In turn, they try to teach us a couple of “bad” words or expressions in German, at which we fail miserably. (I’ve always wanted to know a bad word or two in a foreign language – they don’t teach you those in French class in high school! [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] ) Many laughs are had as Lucy and I try our hands at German cursing!! I wish I had written them down at the time so I could attempt them with a clearer mind. We also make sure to warn them about the strong Florida sun – it will burn their fair skin in no time!
Afternoon turns into evening, and our party is still going strong - there must be about a dozen of us by now, even the servers stop by to chat and laugh with us. We are just having a great time visiting with all these folks, when who should walk up but Cindy and Don, my parents’ neighbors!! “You guys are in BIG trouble!” Cindy tells us. She proceeds to explain that my mom has become worried because she hasn’t heard from us all day and is now convinced that we’ve been chopped up into tiny pieces and buried on the beach by some deranged person!! She’s even sent my dad out looking for us! Uh oh!! [img]graemlins/ukid.gif[/img] I quickly run out to my car to grab my cell phone to call and assure them that we are just fine – and to apologize for being irresponsible by not calling! (I feel like I’m 16 years old again coming in past curfew!) When I get to the car, I see the clock on the dashboard and it tells me it’s 8:17 pm – Yikes!! I had no idea it was that late!! Mom is relieved to hear from me and embarrassed that she got so worried. I apologize profusely for not calling sooner and assure her that we are quite well and will be home within a couple of hours. All is well, although I can’t shake the guilt.
I head back to our tables and Cindy and Don tell us that they have just come from getting matching tattoos for Don’s birthday! (I told you earlier about how into each other they are – it is almost too much!) And, they tell us, they have invited my parents over to their house this evening to celebrate! Cindy tells us not to worry, they’ll entertain my mom and dad and give them good wine to drink. We thank them and they head home for the birthday party.
After this, our good mood is a bit dampened. We decide to switch to sodas for a while and get a bite to eat. We stay and visit with our new friends for a while, but finally decide we’d better head home to face the music. (Did I tell you I ‘m feeling like a bad teenager? [img]graemlins/pout.gif[/img] ) We say goodbye to our new friends and head home at about 10:00.
When we arrive at Mom and Dad’s they are nowhere to be found. They must still be at Cindy and Don’s, so we head up there. Apparently a great time is being had by all there until the “bad” girls arrive! Man, can we kill a party! We chat with everyone for a while, but the party breaks up about 20 minutes after we arrive. The four of us walk home together, and I apologize again. Mom tells me not to worry about it – I’m 36 years old and she knows I’m able to take care of myself, but it’s just the mom in her that still sees me as a “kid.” (My mom’s title is: Queen of the Guilt Trips – although I really did deserve this one!)
Anyway, back to the house we go, and very shortly thereafter are tucked snugly in our beds. I fall into a sound sleep for a couple of hours, but wake up around 1:00 am with my stomach just killing me. I think it’s a combination of way too much rum and way too much guilt – bad combination! I can’t seem to fall back asleep, so I stay up most of the night watching TV. Fortunately, Lucy doesn’t seem to be suffering from the same affliction and gets herself a good night’s rest.
Up next – The day after – Bargain Hunting at Merritt Island Mall and Can a Person Die from a Hangover?
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07-09-2003, 10:27 PM
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Community Rank: Trailblazer
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Pittsburgh, PA , USA
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Re: 2 Girls + 10 Days = Too Much Fun (6/12-6/22) Day 10 now up
Hey, it's actually nice to know that Mom and Dad still care so much! [img]graemlins/love.gif[/img]
Keep the great installments coming! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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07-09-2003, 10:46 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: North Central Ohio
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Re: 2 Girls + 10 Days = Too Much Fun (6/12-6/22) Day 10 now up
Hi Kris!! Boy I bet you guys were the topic of everyone's conversations after they left the restaurant!! LOL Glad you had such a fun time!! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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