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Tuesday 13 September – part five: are we ever going to find anywhere to park?
We were heading for the park’s visitor centre, as from the start of April to the end of October, there’s no vehicle access into the main area of the park. You have to park up and then catch the shuttle bus, which runs about every 7-10 minutes during the peak parts of the day. The first challenge however was parking up.
We headed for the visitor centre, along with everyone else in the world, or so it seemed. I knew that we stood little chance at the number of cars coming out, as surely they couldn’t all be leaving. They weren’t. They were all leaving because they couldn’t find a space, either in the main car park or the overflow car park nearby. We drove round for about 15 minutes, failing to find anything and resigning ourselves to driving over to Springdale, which is served by a separate shuttle bus to the visitor centre.
As we came out of the park entrance, Mark spotted a parking lot and there were spaces, so we parked up there and walked back to the visitor centre. It was maybe a five minute walk and probably no worse than the far ends of the overflow car park.
We headed inside, so that I could get my passport stamped and, that done, we left any shopping for later, so that we didn’t have to carry it around with us. After a quick restroom break, we boarded the shuttle and headed up to Zion Lodge. It was pretty busy on board, but there was no standing on this coach as we went up, so it wasn’t that busy.
I had suggested the Lodge, as I was starving and figured I needed some food before doing anything else. My first plan was to go to the cafeteria, so as to maximise our time in the park, but when Mark pointed out the line, which was out of the door so I opted for my second option, which was the Red Rock Grill, their restaurant.
We headed upstairs and were immediately seated, despite first walking into a large line of people being seated. The menu was very reasonable, with the burgers only priced at around $10 each, which I thought was very good for the location.
I opted for the Sinawawa salmon burger, with sweet potato fries and that was very nice, although it certainly had a bit of a kick to it, which I knew about! I loved the fries, but Mark wasn’t at all keen, after trying one, which meant all the more for me!
Mark went for the bison burger (my poor Billy ) and French fries and he told me that, for all he knew, it could’ve easily been beef, as he couldn’t tell much difference in taste.
Our meal, including tip for our server, came to $26, which I thought was pretty good going.
Red Rock Grill:
Entree 7½ 7½
Service 7½ 8
Atmosphere 8½ 8
Value for money 8 7½
Average score: 7.81
As soon as we were done eating, we headed outside to walk down the “easy” 1.2 mile roundtrip to the Lower Emerald Pool. You’ll see shortly why I put easy in quotation marks.
We set off, going over a lovely little bridge...
Then what I would describe more as a hike began. If this was honestly 0.6 miles, I’d be really surprised. When we set off, they warned us that it would take about an hour to walk the trail. I couldn’t fathom that out, as I’ve always understood that most people walk at about three miles an hour, so surely it should be more like half an hour? As we progressed, I could see why they said it, as there were some serious hills as we went. I felt decidedly unfit and I’ve been walking regularly for the last six months or so...
We got lots of photos on the way and I will say that this trek gave us a better appreciation of the park, as I don’t think you get that from the Lodge.
I'm also surprised at how busy it was, wow! Lunch did sound good, especially sweet potato fries. From your description, I can't believe they would call this an "easy" hike! : Sounds like it should be classified as moderate!! Glad to see a photo of my favorite cactus:
They're so cute! Well, for a cactus anyway....
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I'm also surprised at how busy it was, wow! Lunch did sound good, especially sweet potato fries. From your description, I can't believe they would call this an "easy" hike! : Sounds like it should be classified as moderate!! Glad to see a photo of my favorite cactus:
Chez, you are a bad influence! I have already begun mapping out some trips to take with the family. Since we are in driving distance, I've already broken it into two trips: Jackson Hole/Yellowstone and Grand Canyon. Hoping to do the Yellowstone trip in August. Your pictures got me moving!
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Chez, you are a bad influence! I have already begun mapping out some trips to take with the family. Since we are in driving distance, I've already broken it into two trips: Jackson Hole/Yellowstone and Grand Canyon. Hoping to do the Yellowstone trip in August. Your pictures got me moving!
I think that's me being a good influence, getting you to see more of the States! Glad to hear I was able to help get you moving!
Tuesday 13 September – part six: this really isn’t worth the hike
Finally, we made it to the Lower Emerald Pool and waterfall and I think it would be fair to say that it was a real disappointment. As Mark said, it’s probably much more impressive in the spring, when the waterfall is in full effect, but today it was a pretty poor show. The emerald pools weren’t bad, but they were nothing overly spectacular either. After the build-up my guidebook had given this, I have to confess that I was disappointed.
As we walked back, I couldn’t help but think about what would happen if today’s forecast storms were to hit. All along, you could see signs of what had happened in the past when the floods had hit, with storm drains everywhere underneath the path to take the water away, and tree roots sticking out of the ground, with the soil that was holding them in no doubt washed away. I immediately figured if it started to rain, I would move a lot quicker. We had also heard on the narration on the bus on the way here that they do get really bad flash floods, when the road can get completely blocked, and the most recent of those was in winter 2010! It’s good that they update the narration so often, but it didn’t give me much comfort, especially when they talked about closing the park and evacuating people...
Fortunately, I was worrying for nothing and we made it back to the Lodge fine, although it was starting to cloud over.
We just missed one shuttle bus, so we waited for the next one and, to be honest, it’s not a bad service, as we only had a few minutes to wait for it. What I didn’t like though was that it takes away your freedom to explore the park on your own terms, stopping at every viewpoint you want to enjoy. To do that with the shuttle bus, you have to get off and then get back on the next one and, at the back of our minds, was the question “will we be able to get a seat on the next bus?” As a result, we opted to stay on until the final stop on the loop, which is the Temple of Sinawava.
Next: lots of cute posing animals... and one not-so-cute one!
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They were all leaving because they couldn’t find a space, either in the main car park or the overflow car park nearby. We drove round for about 15 minutes, failing to find anything and resigning ourselves to driving over to Springdale, which is served by a separate shuttle bus to the visitor centre. 
so I opted for my second option, which was the Red Rock Grill, their restaurant. 
I loved the fries, but Mark wasn’t at all keen, after trying one, which meant all the more for me! 
sweet potato fries. More great pictures!!!
From your description, I can't believe they would call this an "easy" hike! 
: Sounds like it should be classified as moderate!! Glad to see a photo of my favorite cactus:
Tricia
We had also heard on the narration on the bus on the way here that they do get really bad flash floods, when the road can get completely blocked, and the most recent of those was in winter 2010! 
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