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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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03-13-2005, 04:40 PM
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RED SOX NATION!!
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Re: The AP adventure - THREAD 7 OF 7 - UPDATED 3/11!
More great updates as usual Cheryl And great pictures too Shame on Mark for causing the tantrum
More please
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03-13-2005, 06:40 PM
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The Original BagMan
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Re: The AP adventure - THREAD 7 OF 7 - UPDATED 3/11!
Great Updates!!! Love the pictures!!!
More Please!!!!!!!!!!!!
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03-13-2005, 08:52 PM
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Community Rank: Adventurer
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Re: The AP adventure - THREAD 7 OF 7 - UPDATED 3/11!
Loving your trip report, Cheryl. I know you once described a veiled maiden, but could you do so once again? Sounds yummy!
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03-14-2005, 01:50 AM
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PassPorter Message Board Manager PassPorter Guide Author
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Re: The AP adventure - THREAD 7 OF 7 - UPDATED 3/11!
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Loving your trip report, Cheryl. I know you once described a veiled maiden, but could you do so once again? Sounds yummy!
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Here you go, taken from earlier on in my trip report:
"I ended up having a Veiled Maiden, which is a combination of whipped cream and apple sauce, while Mark had an apple Danish."
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03-14-2005, 01:51 AM
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PassPorter Message Board Manager PassPorter Guide Author
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Re: The AP adventure - THREAD 7 OF 7 - UPDATED 3/11!
Friday 24 December – part one: “you don’t know me, but I know you”
Original plans:
Morning – Yuletide Fantasy tour, which leaves from Epcot at 8.45 and returns at lunchtime.
Lunch – Mama Melrose’s, 2.00 p.m.
We have no specific plans for the afternoon, although we’re thinking of heading to Celebration to see the snow on Market Street, if we haven’t made it there already during the vacation.
We were woken up by Stitch, again telling us “no more sleeping” at 7.00, as we were booked on the Yuletide Fantasy tour, which was due to leave Epcot at 8.45. We decided, after the incident with my ankle yesterday, to drive over to the main Epcot parking lot, rather than walking through International Gateway, as we wanted to try and rest my ankle as much as possible. It’s unusual for us to go in through the main entrance, so I had to grab a photo of the entrance, but as you can see, it was quite misty already – a theme of the day:
We found our group quickly enough, something to do with the fact that everyone waiting for guest services was also there for the tour, so it was a case of “follow those people”! As we were waiting, I noticed someone with a PassPorter pouch, but as usual, I was too shy (honestly! ) to go up and say anything to them. As I was looking at them and wondering if they posted on the boards, someone else walked up to us and said “you don’t know me, but I know you”. I think, to begin with, Mark and I thought “yeah right, you’ve mistaken us for someone else”, but then the person, who had the name tag of Tammie, introduced herself as being from Birmingham, Alabama and explained that she’d read my last trip report and said she remembered all about the insect bites. So, Tammie, if you’re reading this - She did tell me she doesn’t post very often, which is a great shame, so please – a bit more posting now you’ve been mentioned in a Chezp trip report! And I hope that I do the tour justice – please feel free to jump in and say if I didn’t!
When our guide arrived, we found out that there were due to be 39 of us, but we would be split into two groups. The same comment came time and time again, as more people turned up “this still doesn’t look like 39 people…” and indeed, by the time we left, there were still four people missing who never showed up. Their loss, as this was good fun, but not really what I’d expected. I thought it would focus on all the amazing Christmas decorations at Disney and how they put them together, looking at the creative process, how they get them up in one night, that sort of thing. But that ended up only being a very small part of the tour.
We set off at 9.10, after waiting in vain for the final four people to show up. We walked past Spaceship Earth, then turned right and headed straight into a backstage area, where a Disney Cruise Line bus was waiting to take us to our next stop. We drove past lots of backstage areas and it was amazing how quickly you get disorientated when you’re behind Epcot.
It was interesting to get a close up view of a lot of the places that we had seen from the balcony of our one bedroom villa at the Beach Club Villas. This included a view of the new Soarin’ building, which is huge. I can not wait to try this, as it looks impressive already from the outside and I’ve heard so many good things about the Disneyland version.
We stopped by Germany, which is apparently also the Candlelight Processional rehearsal area, according to the signs we saw. As we got out of the bus, we could see food waste bins (nice! ) and then we were onstage. There were no doors to go through, they were already open, as World Showcase wasn’t yet open and they were working outside, cleaning the pavement.
Here, we learnt how Germany started many of the Christmas traditions we all know and love today:
1. The Christmas tree, originally an evergreen to highlight the story of Adam and Eve, as it was alive all year round. They were originally put in the centre of towns, but then they got moved inside, after people were banned from celebrating in the town squares.
2. Christmas decorations – these originally came from glass blowers, who would see how big they could blow a glass ball. These were then suspended from the ceilings, but eventually they moved on to smaller items that could then be hung on trees and made 500 moulds for things like fruit and birdcages, both of which were originally hung on trees before the glass ornaments arrived.
3. Carols We learnt about Silent Night and how that was written by a church organist, who wasn’t actually credited with writing it until a couple of years ago and it was found that original sheet music showed he had written it.
4. St. Nicholas We heard how the legend of St. Nicholas started with a man who gave presents to those who couldn’t afford to buy any. He tried to give presents to a father that couldn’t afford a dowry for his daughter, but he wouldn’t accept it. So the story goes that St. Nicholas hurled gold coins through an open window, which rebounded off the fireplace and into stockings by the fireplace and that’s how we get the idea of putting presents in stockings by the fireplace. How much of that is embellishment (like leaving windows open in the midst of winter! ) is another matter, but it’s a nice story.
We were allowed to take some photos during the tour, but not of any “backstage” work taking place in World Showcase. It was nice just to get some shots of the countries which they were empty:
Note all the Christmas decorations in the square!
Next: how can it get colder as the morning goes on?
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03-14-2005, 04:04 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
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Re: The AP adventure - THREAD 7 OF 7 - UPDATED 3/11!
The tour sounds great , I can't wait to read more.
Karen
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03-14-2005, 06:15 AM
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Community Rank: Trekker
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Re: The AP adventure - THREAD 7 OF 7 - UPDATED 3/11!
Sounds like a wonderful tour! Looking forward to hearing more about it!
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03-14-2005, 08:18 AM
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Community Rank: Legend
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Re: The AP adventure - THREAD 7 OF 7 - UPDATED 3/11!
Cheryl, that sounds like a terrific tour!! I didn't know any of that stuff!
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03-14-2005, 09:57 AM
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Community Rank: Navigator
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Re: The AP adventure - THREAD 7 OF 7 - UPDATED 3/11!
I'm catching up again, Cheryl! Great updates! I was laughing so hard at the chocolate temper tantrum episode... admittedly empathizing more with the poor Dad since I can relate so well! Of course the outburst was not Mark's fault at all. If it hadn't been the chocolate it would have been something else. Toddlers in need of naps are like ticking time bombs!
The tour sounds fascinating. Thanks for sharing all those tidbits! Looking forward to your next installment!
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03-14-2005, 10:01 AM
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Community Rank: Legend Extraordinaire
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Re: The AP adventure - THREAD 7 OF 7 - UPDATED 3/11!
Great update Cheryl!! The pictures are great and the tour sounds very interesting so far!
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03-14-2005, 10:54 AM
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Community Rank: Globetrotter
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Re: The AP adventure - THREAD 7 OF 7 - UPDATED 3/11!
Wonderful pictures!
Excited to read more...........
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03-14-2005, 01:02 PM
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Eileeeeeeen!™
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Re: The AP adventure - THREAD 7 OF 7 - UPDATED 3/11!
Can't wait for more!
Eileen
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03-14-2005, 02:25 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
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Re: The AP adventure - THREAD 7 OF 7 - UPDATED 3/11!
Great update All the XMas info is so interesting - I can't wait to hear more!
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03-14-2005, 04:41 PM
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The Original BagMan
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Re: The AP adventure - THREAD 7 OF 7 - UPDATED 3/11!
Tammie, you're famous now
Great Update Cheryl, and still loving the pictures!!!
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03-14-2005, 06:25 PM
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Community Rank: Passenger
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Location: Alabama
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Re: The AP adventure - THREAD 7 OF 7 - UPDATED 3/11!
Well now that I have made it into a Chezp trip report, I will have to post more often. I thought Cheryl and Mark were going to think I was crazy (and maybe they did) but I did not want to pass up meeting them after reading Cheryl's trip reports.
Tammie
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