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A very pretty little snake! Must have made Chris very happy and I hope is an omen of more wildlife on this trip than last.
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The hot springs and mud pots are so interesting. I don't like snakes one bit, but I'm glad Chris finally got to see one on your park adventures.
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I'm with you Terri on snakes, but I'm happy that Chris got to see one. The next instalment sounds even more interesting....
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More fascinating pictures! I must get there!
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More awesome pictures! Glad Chris finally got to see a snake!
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Glad Chris was able to see a snake. Sorry to hear about your hip. Hope you get to feeling better soon.
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Norris Geyser Basin - and a Grizzly Bear

Our next stop was the Norris Geyser Basin - but right as we left Artist Paint Pots - we came across this guy right on the side of the road - our first bison!

He was just sitting there - less than 20 feet from the road.

We stopped the car - got out and took photos. I kept telling Chris not to get too close..


Next we we on to the Norris Geyser Basin - this is the most dynamic and changing geyser basin in the park. Ground temperatures have exceeded 200 degrees F in recent years - it is a very active basin.


Norris is one of the most active earthquake areas in the park, and although it is outside of the Yellowstone caldera (the caldera formed during the last eruption of the super volcano) it is inside the caldera from the first eruption. It is also one of the most acidic hydrothermal areas in the park.

Each year new hot springs and geysers appear while others become dormant or change previously mapped patterns. There are two basins at Norris - the Back Basin and the Porcelain Basin. We opted to start with the larger of the two - the Back Basin.


Emerald Spring is the first spring you come to on the Back Basin trail.

And then we came to the largest and highest geyser in the whole park - Steamboat geyser

Steamboat is VERY unpredictable - it has gone years between eruptions. When it erupts it shoots 300 feet into the air - and in between eruptions it sputters and sprays between 10-40 feet of hot water into the air.

There are two areas to see Steamboat - and when we came around the corner - we discovered that it last erupted on July 31 of this year.


Then we moved on to Cistern Spring - which is connected to Steamboat Geyser - after Steamboat erupts - Cistern drains.

The spring is a beautiful blue or green color with constant overflow (that is why all the trees around it are dead), It deposits up to 1/2 inch of sinter, another name for opaline siilca called geyserite, each year. The silca rich waters have killed the surrounding trees.

Next up was the best named Geyser in the whole park (as least as far as this marine biologist is concerned) - Echinus Geyser

It is names for its black deposits that look like the spines of echinoderms (sea urchins and sea stars). Iron oxides cause the red-orange color of the pool.

While we were here - we met ranger Kevin. He had been told there was a mother grizzly and her cub walking on the boardwalks... and he needed to find her and "discourage" her from being in a high human area. They think she is a new mom and now is a good time to teach her and the cub that it is a good idea to just avoid people. Kevin had his bear spray (we did not invest in a can - $50 each) although it was very available - and he was looking for her. We came across some German tourists who had just seen her and had the photos to prove it. So we walked with Kevin and talked awhile - he even helped verify our scaly friend from Artists Paint Pots was the "wandering garter snake" with his official guide to Yellowstone wildlife issued to all the rangers. He is a seasonal ranger- he works from April - Oct - and spends the rest of the year doing other jobs in nearby Livingston, MT. He is working toward being a full time ranger.



After looking for mama and her cub - we split with Ranger Kevin and continued on our way around Back Basin - Next up was Mystic Spring.



We kept hiking along - and all of a sudden Chris hollered STOP!! I turned around and walked back to him - there in the mud were BEAR TRACKS!!

These appeared to be the cubs prints since they were so SMALL.... (as large as Chris' foot!!)


And a little further down the trail - we found more prints - this time you can clearly see the claws -


Next we passed Puff n Stuff Geyser


and the Green Dragon Spring.


Then we came to the Yellow funnel Spring - which used to have yellow walls from the sulfur it emits


After the Yellow Funnel - the trail began a "new" route. Before 2004 - the trail crossed over to pearl geyser - but in 2003 this area became superheated - with the sidewalks burning and people's feet baking - and a new geyser/spring feature emerging that threw superheated scalding water onto guests as they passed - so the park service rerouted the trail beginning in 2004 passing another one of my favorites - the Pork Chop Geyser.

This geyser, when seen from above, was shaped like a pork chop. It was more of a spring than a geyser - but in 1989 it erupted - and in fact it exploded - throwing rock more than 200 feet away - it erupted violently again in 2003 (the same time as the superheating event) and since then has been a pretty quiet little spring again.

After pork chop comes Pearl Geyser - it was empty when we were there - but it was gurgling - when it erupts it throws water 8 feet into the air. And then we ran into Ranger Rita - she was walking the trails - keeping an eye out for mamma/cub - as well as making notes. We told her about the tracks - and right as we passed it - Vixen Geyser erupted -



Rita took notes about the eruption and Chris and I continued on.

About this time, it was 4pm and we realized if we didn't get a move on - it would be 8 or 9 before we got to Mammoth and our hotel for the night... so we passed by Palpitator Springs (which made me giggle cause I originally thought it said Radiator springs); then on to Monarchs geyser - which used to be a HUGE geyser in the late 1880s... now, not so much, it just overflows and does not erupt.

The last geyser we passed was minute geyser - this geyser used to erupt very high - but the stagecoach stop was right near it - and bored guests would toss things into the pool of the geyser - which clogged it up, damaging the pluming - which effectively killed it. That story made me sad and mad for the ignorance of people.... destroying something so lovely.

We opted not to head to Porcelain Basin - we just didn't have time for another 30-45 minute loop - we'd already taken more than an hour to do back basin.

So we headed to the parking lot, and loaded back in the car. Next time - I want to do the Porcelain Basin - as well as visit the small visitor's center at Norris.

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A bison and bear prints! Bet Chris was happy. The geysers are so amazing. 200 degrees! The color of the deposits around Echinus Geyser remind me of red tide. HOT red tide.
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Cool pictures of the bison! Sorry all you got to see were the bear prints, but that is still cool, too. I really am enjoying all the information about this park.
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A bison and bear prints! Bet Chris was happy. The geysers are so amazing. 200 degrees! The color of the deposits around Echinus Geyser remind me of red tide. HOT red tide.
Red tide is a good analogy - although in most of these springs some of the colors are due to bacteria - where ride tides are usually due to algae.
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Great update with wonderful pictures. I was surprised that Chris got that close to the Bison.
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What a wonderful update - it brought back such great memories of when we saw our first bison. They are such beautiful creatures.
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Love the pictures of the geysers! I can't believe how close Chris is to the bison. Although I can't blame him, I love bison!!
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Commenting on the previous update first - I like the mud bubble photo, and Chris got some nice shots of the snake.

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